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How can I tell which generation engine I have? I am not sure if it is gen 4 5 or 6

Hello:
 
If you can give me the serial number of the engine, I can tell you which version you have\
and the year.
 
If you can't find the serial number, give me all the information you do have (the boat, the approximate
year etc) and I might be able to make a guess.
 
Also on the computer (black or silver box) there is usually a bunch of numbers.  If you give me them
I can usually give you an estimate as well.
 
The V are from 1990-1996 or so while the VI are from 1995-2002 or so , but there are overlaps and outliers
to this rule of thumb.
 
 
J.D.

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Last update: 2017-02-10 17:24


Mercruiser Scan Tool Question

Hello:
 
Rinda has an update for the Mercruiser Scan tool which comes with new chips and instructions on
how to install.  It is part number 94056 with a price of $175.
 
If you have a techmate (instead of the Merc one) then the part number is 94040U for the same price.
 
Thank you.
 
J.d.
 
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Hello:
 
What version of tech mate do you have?  Rinda says that almost all of their units support the 2.8.
 
J.D.
 
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Hi
Please I want information
The sofware my scan tools  isn't  good for my boat 
I have a 2.8 d-tronic mercruiser
It possible to change the software the scan tools ?
 

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Last update: 2015-03-12 20:09


Mercruiser 47-86462A-1 obsolete

Hello Sir:

I am sorry to tell you that 47-86462A-1 is no longer available from Mercruiser.

Mercruiser recommends that you replace the whole pump with a 466-9410A-1.  This is available from Mercruiser, but it is expensive (see attached quote).

I did find a person who has one of the earlier impellers 14-86462 in stock.  They want $150 for it.

Let me know what you would like to do.

Thank you.

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-12 20:09


SC1000 Smart Craft System Question

Hello:
Between 2000 and 2002, Mercruiser had a precursor to the SC1000 Smart Craft system.  It is close to being the same and during this period often newer attachments (gauges) came out that would work with both the SC1000 and the earlier version.

So the SC1000 version (79-889223K22 ) will replace your 79-859068-1 as long as the back of your existing guage is blue.  If so then you can swap over to the SC1000 series.

However, if the back of your 79-859068-1 is white then you cannot replace it with the new quage.   This means that your guage was one of the earlier versions and is not compatable with the later more developed systems.   If it is white let me know and I will go see if I can dig up the original one for you.  I might or might not be able to.

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-12 20:10


Bravo III Drives Gear Set Question

Hello Sir:

The Bravo III drives have counter-rotating props so they can run in either direction (like the Volvo Penta drives).  This gear set is for a lower unit Bravo III. The gear set in the quote is for a 16/27 ratio.  

The ratio of the drive is determined by what mix of upper and lower gear sets you use so there are three different upper gear ratios and four different lower ratios that make up all the drive ratios.  On the Bravo I and Bravo IIs they only have one lower unit and the three upper gear ratios make the different ratios.

Hope this helps.

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-12 20:10


Mercruiser 93772A11 Question

Hello Sir:

We can supply the 93772A11 (although since it is an expired part there is an extra $25 charge as I have to get it from the West Coast), but are you sure this is the part that you need?

I ask as I show this is used mostly on a V200XRI EFI outboard which is somewhat rare.

If you can give me the serial number and/or the model and the approximate year I can check to make sure you are ordering the correct part.

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-12 20:08


Corrosion Control on Sail Drives Question

I am considering a sail drive installation with a folding al bronze propeller. I want to understand the galvanic corrosion engineering better. I understand the leg is aluminium, the shaft is stainless steel, the inside of the hub is also stainless steel, the outside is aluminium bronze and the blades are aluminium bronze.

If this is correct, then presumably the leg and the al. bronze parts are protected by their respective anodes but what protects the stainless steel?

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Hello:
 
The ways of corrosion control on these sail drives is a bit of a mystery to me also, but it does work well.  We don't have people with troubles with corrosion on these sail drives.
 
I think since everything is bonded to everything else, the zincs/anodes protect everything by having a substantially lower Nobel than all the metals.  They sacrifice before everything else.  Matter of fact most set ups use the sail drive zincs for protecting the engine as well.  Most engines do have not separate anodes on the salt water cooling side at all.
 
Just an aside on this issue.  I  used to work for Bath Iron Works that builds the destroyers for the Navy.  I was at a meeting where corrosion control was being discussed.  At that time, the Navy had designed an active corrosion system that gave the ship a slight positive charge for corrosion.  The meeting was about how it had been determined that the slight positive charge was messing up the sensor array's (in a rubber bulb at the bow below the water line) accuracy and what should be done.  After much discussion, new protocols on when and how the active corrosion system would be used were established and then one of the engineers said it didn't make much difference as the active corrosion system didn't work all that well anyway and besides the ship had 4000 anodes all through the tanks and hulls.  Someone asked how come so many and the engineer said that there wasn't
any real rhyme or reason, but that it was determined more is probably better than fewer and they don't cost that much.  So there you are.
 
It brings to mind a friend of mine who tried to explain the theory of acoustics to me in regards to a theater he was adding additional baffle plates in an attempt to improve the sound quality.
 
J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-16 21:53


39670A38 Replacement Question

Hello Sir:
 
The 39670A38 number has been superceeded to a number of different parts depending upon your
engine.  There is a bulletin describing this change.
 
Please let us know which replacement one you need.  If you are unsure, just give me the model
and approximate year of your engine (and serial number if you can) and I will find out which you
need.
 
Thank you.
 
J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-16 21:53


Oil Pump/Check Valve Question

Hello:
I don't think there is a check valve, but I haven't heard that you can lose the prime on the lube oil side.  The oil always drains mostly down into the sump.  My guess would be that your oil pump is weak and what happens is that it only works enough when it has oil in it, but when the oil drains down, it is not strong enough to suck up the oil at first.
 
So I would take off the pump and clean it up and see how it looks in there.  There is a piston in the pump that is held and pushes against a spring so maybe the spring is tired or the piston scarred.
 
Sort of an odd problem.
 
J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-16 21:53


Verado Model Question

Hello:
If you give me your Verado mode; (it looks like this is what it is) and the serial number (if you have it), I can confirm these are the correct parts.

It looks like perhaps the other quote you received may have done the old trick of putting extra numbers or leaving out numbers in the part numbers.  Some places to this so you have to go with them to get the parts.  Others times it is just an error.

In this case on the spark plug number it looks like you were missing the first "8" and the "12" was added.  The part number is 33-889246Q39

On the Thermostat housing you were missing the "4".  The number is 892864T04.

And on the zinc there was an extra "CM" and the "5" should have been a "Q" so the correct number is 826134Q.  Incidentally these are the side anodes that are squarish.  I show you need two of these.

I also included the other anode 76214T5 which is the steering fin like anode. You should probably replace both of them.

J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-16 21:54


OMD Schematics and Parts Question

Hello:
 
No trouble helping you with this, but can you be more specific on what type of parts you need?  There are approximately 125 schematic pages connected to this OMD. So if you can give me an idea of what you are looking for I can send you the proper schematics. 
 
The part numbers are going to jump around a bit, but once  you ID the original numbers then I can get you a quote for the newer up-to-date numbers.  The parts will be a combination of OMC numbers and Volvo Penta numbers (the engine parts) as OMC and Volvo Penta had a joint venture from 1992-1998 so there is overlap.
 
J.D.
 
 

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Last update: 2015-03-16 21:55


Thornycroft Question

hi im looking for a bell housing adaptor plate i have a 345 thornycroft 6cyl to suit borg warner v drive thanx

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Hello:
 
I have heard of a Thornycroft, but I don't know which SAE housing it has on the back.
 
Can you tell me which SAE housing you have?  If you don't know it, you can measure
the housing and I can identify it.  I will need the outside diameter, the inside diameter, the
number of holes and the distance from a hole center point to hole center point.
 
So SAE 4 has an outside diameter of 403.23 mm, an inside of 361.95 mm and a 381 from
center point hole to opposite centerpoint hole.  It has 12 bolt holds with a hole diameter 10.32
mm.
 
J.D.
 

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Last update: 2015-03-03 18:01


Merc Scan Tool Question

JD,
I received the Rinda Merc Scan Tool that I purchased from you a couple weeks ago.  I just tried the "PCM Function - Induced Misfire Test" and it appears the Scan Tool is defective.  The misfire test worked perfectly for cylinders
1 and 2, but does not work at all for cylinders 3 thru 8.  The Scan Tool appears to reset and then displays "Selected hardware is not supported by ECM".  I retried the test 4 times, and got the same results.

It is not possible that my ECM doesn't support this.  Here are the specifics of my engine and ECM:

2003 Merc 5.0L MPI
Engine S/N:  0M683624
Model: 4M4102LRS
ECM P/N: 864271-005

Please provide a RMA and pre-paid shipping instructions for a replacement with a good unit.

Thanks,

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Here is a brief explanation of what is going on:

Your unit is fine. Your engine is equipped with a "bank fired" FI system with only two injector drivers in the ECM which drives 4 injectors each. This test isn't meant with these earlier FI systems. Newer engines which run "full sequential" FI system with 8 fuel injector drivers (1 per injectors) can use this test because it isolates each injector and measures engine RPM on each cylinder when each injector is isolated during the test. This cannot be done on the Bank fired system (ECM) on your 5.0L MPI. This is why you are having a hardware code on the Scan tool on this particular test.

Hope this helps. If you still have more questions let us know.

JD

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Last update: 2015-03-03 19:49


Mercury 4954200RX Pump Question

Hello Sir:

This pump 4954200RX is a rebuilt pump remanufactured by Cummins and comes with a one year warranty. 

The RX is a Rebuild Exchange which means that there is a core charge of $875 on the pump.  The core charge is to encourage customers to return their old pumps so that Cummins can rebuild them.  The core charge is reimbursed to you once I receive your old pump here at Marine Parts Express.  Once we receive the old pump we will credit your card the $875.

We have this pump in stock and can ship it out, but I wanted to be sure that you understood the extra core charge before we ran your card.  Please let me know.

J. D. Neeson
President

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Last update: 2015-03-03 19:53


Stuffing Box New Part Numbers Question

Hello:

 

Attached is the bulletin showing the new part numbers and sizes for these stuffing boxes.

 

All of these are available although they are now only in metric sizes.

 

 

J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-05 15:41


Mercury Grease Part Number Changes Question

My order should have contained. 

1. 92-802869Q-1

1. 92-802870Q-1

I received 

2. 92-8M0071841

 Please correct my order.

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Hello Sir:

Mercruiser has superceeded the orginal part numbers to the new number we supplied.

Part number 92-802869Q1 is superceeded by 92-8M0071842 (same as 92-8M0071841).

Part number 92-802870Q1 is superceeded by 92-8M0071842. (same as 92-8M0071841).

Thank you.

J.D.

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If I am understanding you correctly, you are saying the grease you sent should be used for lubricating the engine coupler, u joints and gimbal bearing. Please correct me if I'm wrong. 
Thanks,

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Last update: 2015-03-05 16:41


Merc 806830T RPL 8M0071811 Heat Exchanger Question

Hello Sir:

 

Attached is the bulletin describing how the heat exchanger 806830T has been changed to a new number 807261 (8M0071811 is the new number).

 

But note there are some earlier engines with earlier serial numbers that this can’t be used on.

 

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-05 17:01


Merc Serpentine Belts, Pulleys, and Kits Question

Hello Sir:

 

The pulley you asked about is no longer manufactured.  Mercruiser has changed the belt system.

 

The attached bulletin explains the changes and the new kits that you have to use depending upon

which engine you have.  Sometimes I wonder if these are excuses to charge more, but in this case

the new belt and pulley system does improve how long they last and gives better performance.

 

If you can’t figure out which you need (as the bulletin is the most clearly written document) just let

me know what engine you have and I can get you a quote.

 

Thank you.

 

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-05 17:18


Harness Assembly 84-805363A1 RPL 15247T02 Question

Hello Sir:

Attached is an updated quote for the harness assembly.  I was able to find one, but as you can the price is substantial.

The reason this is so hard to find is because the ICM has changed to a new type quite a few years ago so most people have the new ICM that has a built in harness.

Please let me know which way you would like to go.

Thank you.

J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-05 17:25


Merc 828012A18 NLA/Bulletin Question

Hello:

I am sorry, but 828012A18 is no longer available.  Attached is a buletin describing the changes.

Please let me know if you would like us to go ahead.

J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-05 17:53


Mercruiser Clutch Question

Hello Sir:
 
Attached is a bulletin explaining how Mercruiser has changed the clutch by incorporating it in
an entire new gear set an clutch combination.  I can supply this new kit, but the price is
around $1,950 for the gear set, pinion and clutch etc.
 
This is what Mercruiser recommends strongly.
 
I do have one of the older type clutch 43-883473A4 left, but the price is $550 (I had to pay
a premium to get it as they are now rare).  I am happy to sell this to you, but please realize
that Mercruiser would want you to swap out to the new set up.
 
Please let me know what you would like to do.
 

J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-05 19:17


Expired Bracket Question

Hello:

I am sorry but the bracket is no longer available.  You may want to see if you can find someone who will make these for you. If you can't find anyone, let me know and I will get a price for the manufacturing from my local machine shop (old tin knockers from way back).

Do you want the pressure caps and the expansion tanks to go out anyway?

J. D. Neeson

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Thank you for the information.

Please go ahead and send the tank and cap.

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Last update: 2015-03-05 19:26


Mercruiser » Anodes

The anode kit number (serial) is 888756k01, Are we sure this is for fresh water?

"The Mercury Marine Complete Anode Kit 888756K01 is suited for use on 1991 and newer Mercruiser Alpha One Gen II Outdrives (s/n 0D469829 and up). The kit is a full replacement for all factory installed anodes found on the transom and drive unit. Aluminum construction makes them useful in all types of water."

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Last update: 2015-03-16 21:59


Volvo Penta

Do you have something like an engine block heater made specifically for the Volvo Penta 5.7 GXi-F?

Hello:

There is nothing available for marine engines.

Some of the local fishermen up here in Maine use an automotive block heater that plugs
into 110V shore power and keeps the oil warm.  I am always a little nervous about this
as it is not explosive proof.  The heater is usually stuck down the oil dipstick

There is also a block heater (again automotive) that heats the anti-freeze with a coil
that is put into where a plug is.  Again it runs on 110V and is not officially explosive
proof. 

There is also a company out of Wisconsin (or Michigan) area that makes a propane heater
for marine use.  It is not a block heater, but the idea is that it keeps the whole
engine compartment above freezing. 

You can also look at a company Espar company that has a heater that runs off the
engine fuel (diesel I think mostly, but they may have a propane or a gas version). 

We don't handle any of these I am afraid, but we can supply you any parts for your engine
or drive.  

Hope this helps.


J. D. Neeson
Marine Parts Express
www.marinepartsexpress.com
Toll Free: (877) 621-2628
International: (207) 882-6165
Fax (207) 882-9865

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Last update: 2017-01-30 14:17


Volvo Penta XDP-B Drives Upgrade Question

Dear sir or madame,
 
I’m an owner of a Monterey 322 with faulty Volvo Penta XDP-B drives. I’ve seen on your blog, that Volvo extended the upgrade promotion until end of this year. 
 
I’really would like to use this upgrade promotion and would like to ask you for help to place my request just in time.
 
My only issue is that I’m from Germany and all of the local Volvo dealers here have no experiences with these drives.
 
Thanks for your help in advance.
 
Best regards,
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Hello Sir:
 
We have done this upgrade with people overseas (I just sent one off to Hong Kong).
 
Volvo Penta has now extended this to February 15th so you have a little time, but it would
probably be better to order it before the year end as I think there may be a rush later
on and it may affect availability.
 
The only difference in the program for people overseas is that we charge a $4,000 core charge
for the drive and the transom shield.  This is to encourage you to send them back to us within
45 days. The shipping of these old parts back is your responsibility.   Volvo Penta wants these back,
they do not care what condition, so that they are off the market. 
 
I will need to know the serial number of the engine and drive and they registered to you.  If they
are not registered please let me know and I can register them for you.
 
I also need these serial numbers so I can make sure you get the other parts that you might need
to do this upgrade.   The additional parts are part of the upgrade but the differ depending on what
set up you.
 
The other issue is whether you want to replace the drive with a DPS-B (about $10,500) or the DPS-B OXI (Ocean X series) (about $11,500) version.   There is no difference in performance, but the Ocean X series is more corrosion resistant as it has an additional coating put on it.  Unless you have had corrosion issues, I am not completely convinced the $1000 difference is fully justified.  
 
However, the Ocean X series option comes with propeller hubs that you can put into your existing propellers (the ones from your XDP) while the DPS-B option does not come with prop hubs so you have to purchase them (around $350) unless you also want to purchase completely new props ($750 for aluminum and $1,595 stainless steel prop set).  So really the difference between the two drives is really only about $650.
 
Shipping to you in Germany would be, depending on your location, about $750.
 
I think the upgrade is well worth doing as Volvo  Penta has had many issues with the XDP drives.  We seem to find that a boat with the XDP setup is discounted by $10,000 as the market has realized that the XDP drive is a problem.
 
JD

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Last update: 2015-02-26 19:40


MS25S-A Sail Drive question

Hello:
 
The MS25S-A was a sail drive that Volvo Penta used to put behind the MD2020-MD2040 engines.  It always
created big confusion as there is are a couple of inboard gears (such as the  MS25L) which have almost the same name.
 
The MS25S-A was around for a couple of years and then it transitioned into the 120S-E saildrives which in turn later became the 130S saildrives.  Matter of fact the lower unit of a MS25S-A and the 120S-E is the same.  The upper unit of the MS25S is unique however.
 
If you try to purchase an MS25S-A now it supercedes up to a 130S saildrive which has a retail value of $7,920.24.
 
Back in the day the MS25S-A sold for about $4,800 or so.
  
But there are a passel of them out there so you should have any trouble selling it.
 
J.D.
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JD,
I received this new sail drive unit in with a group of transmissions. It is complete in the original container.
Let me know what it is worth.
See attached pictures.
Thanks.
 

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Last update: 2015-02-26 19:49


Self-Repairing TAMD40B Injection Pump Question

Hello Sir:

You really should not try to repair the tamd 40B injection pump yourself.   If you send it up to me I will send it off to a Bosch shop that we use all the time and they will fix, recalibrate and bench test it.  The cost depends on the condition, but usually it is around $1,500.

To put this pump back in you do need to calibrate it with a dial indicator though.  I can see you one, but you can probably find someone who has one to lend you.  I can supply the shop manual that describes how to put the pump back on.

The other option is to replace your pump (838497).  I do have a good used one which I can sell you as is (see attached) or I could send it off to be rebuilt and add on whatever the pump shop charges me.

And finally if you want to try to repair yourself (I don't advise it though) I can get all the parts you want although they may be Bosch parts instead of Volvo Penta OEM parts.

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-02-26 19:51


QL Line of Props Question

Hello:

You have the QL line of props (a hub and prop 41102353 and 41102310).  These are no longer supported as QL has gone out of business and Volvo Penta no longer supports the QL line.  For awhile Volvo Penta owned, or controlled, the QL line.

Not to worry however, as I can get you the same type of set up from Mercruiser.  They offer a hub and a prop for the Evenrude line.

If you can tell me the diameter and the pitch of your existing prop - estimates are fine - and the horse power of the Evinrude along with an approximate year, I can get you a set up.

As good, if not better than the QL line and about the same price.

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-02-26 19:52


DIY flushing system question

Hello:

 
I am sorry, but I don’t follow what you are asking.  I think you might mean the DIY flushing system.
 
If so the whole kit is about $40 and the T piece is made from plastic.  This flushing system comes with all the
new engines.  On garden flush project on our web site has a further  description  http://www.marinepartsexpress.com/engine_flush.html.
 
On the question about the including the manifolds in the a new F/W cooling kit.  Volvo Penta doesn’t offer a full system which cools the manifolds as a retrofit.  If you purchase the new engines you can specify a full cooling system.
 
Hope this helps.
 
J.D.

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Last update: 2015-02-26 19:54


Bow Thruster Question

Hello:
 
I just got off the phone with Volvo Penta and they tell me that your oil 41100129 for the Bow Thrusters is no longer offered by Volvo Penta.  It is a “pending obsolete” which means that it does not come as an obsolete part, but the purchasing people no longer try to source it.
 
There are two of these left in Sweden which I might be able to grab, but it means that I have to do it as a 72 hour which has a $250 charge.
 
The other option is wait and eventually we may get the oil in the future.
 
The final option is for me to get you an aftermarket oil (the oil  used in Vetus thrusters).
 
Please let me know.
 
JD.
 

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Last update: 2015-02-26 19:54


Trolling Valves Question

Hello:

The $438 price for the trolling valves are only if you purchase them when you purchase the gear.  Actually the amount if you do this is now $650 and $750 for the mechanical and the electrically activated trolling valves.

If you purchase them separately (without getting a new transmission) then the prices are the ones in the attached quote. I don't quite understand Zf's theory about this pricing, but they will not budge on it.

As of now one of the mech. version is available with the second one about two weeks out.  The electric trolling valves are about four weeks out.

Thank you.

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-02-26 19:56


TAMD41A rebuild kit for raw water pump

Hello:

Attached is the quote for the rebuild kits for your raw water pump on the TAMD41A.  These are new kits and between the three of them you have all the parts that you need to rebuild the pump.  Including the new impeller with the rebuild kits the total cost is around $335.

I also included a new pump cost as it might be easier to get a new pump as it is only another $150 or so.

All are available.

J. D. 

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Last update: 2015-02-26 19:57


Contents of Kit 21676083

Hello:
 
This kit has two part numbers in it.
 
1)        Two Disc kits (21357719)  - attached is a picture of the discs.
2)        And the upgrade oil kit 21551779.
 
 
Since purchasing the 21676083 is less expensive I would get it this way and just hold onto the discs or if  you have not changed the discs maybe change them when do the other work.
 
J.D.

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Last update: 2015-02-26 20:00


Oil Contamination Question

Hello:

Attached is a quote for the conversion kit.

I am on the phone with Volvo Penta (another department) and they found a bulletin dealing with oil contamination.  In the bulletin it describes what you have to do to remedy the contamination and adds this 21551779 kit as well.  My guess is that Volvo Penta thinks you should do the upgrade while working on the contamination issue.

They are going to send me this bulletin and I will forward it to you.  And hopefully Volvo Penta technical will find the bulletin (if one exists) describing the upgrade by itself.

J.d.

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Last update: 2015-02-26 20:01


IPS-C Conversion Kit Question

Hello :
 
Attached is a picture of the conversion kit for your IPS-C.  This means that all the oil is cooled instead
of just the oil bypass oil.  At least that is what I think it does.  I asked Volvo Penta to find a more detailed
description of this upgrade, but they couldn’t find it quickly.  They did say they would look for it though.
 
It seems pretty straightforward.
 
J.D.

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Last update: 2015-02-26 20:02


turbos and turbo gasket connection kit question

Hello:

Attached is the quote for the new turbos and turbo gasket connection kit.  Note that although these turbos are new, Volvo Penta puts a core charge of $610 on each of them.   This core charge is refundable once I get your old turbos back here.  Condition is not important as Volvo Penta just scraps these  as of now.  These are improved turbos.

But I am puzzled by your description of the fouling of everything down line of the turbo. Traditionally, if someone called with the description you gave, I would think that it was base pressure (tired rings that was allowing the oil sump to get pressurized and driving oil up and out)  and that the oil was being sucked in by the turbo and being pushed through the system.  But you say that the compression is good.

The second possible explanation is a leaking oil seal in the turbo allowing oil into the turbo which is then get blown into the rest of system.  But it seems unlikely that both engines and both turbos would have the same type of leak at the same time.  And turbo leaks are not that common and they  usually get worse before finally the turbo seizes up. 

The third possible explanation is that you have an exhaust leak somewhere that is spraying oil into the engine compartment which in turn is being sucked up by the turbos.  You don't have another engine (like a generator) running or some sort of hydraulics that is spewing fluid into the air?

A couple of questions:

1)  Is the turbo air filter all clogged  up and dirty when you change it?
2)  Is the crankcase filter all clogged up and dirty when you change it?
3) Are the engines running hot at all?
4)  When you clean everything out, what does the stuff you are removing look like?  Is it wet or dry?  Is it black
or grayish or white?
5) Do both engines clog up the same and at about the same time?
6)  Are you losing oil or anti-freeze?  
7)  What does the exhaust look like?

It could be the turbos, but not likely to have both at the same time.

J.D.

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D2-55A filter question

Hello Sir:

The D2-55A when they first came out used to use the 3581621 filters which were the same filters that the earlier MD22 series engines used.

Fairly quickly Volvo Penta came out with a D2-55A filter which is a 3840525.  This is the filter that all of the D255A, B,C, Ds now use.  

The 3581621 has now been made obsolete and been replaced by a 21549544.  This filter is used on very few engines, but it would probably be OK to use on your D2-55A, but Volvo Penta would say you should use the 3840525.

Hope this helps.

J.D>

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Volvo Penta XDP-B drives question

Hello Sir:
 
We have done this upgrade with people overseas (I just sent one off to Hong Kong).
 
Volvo Penta has now extended this to February 15th so you have a little time, but it would
probably be better to order it before the year end as I think there may be a rush later
on and it may affect availability.
 
The only difference in the program for people overseas is that we charge a $4,000 core charge
for the drive and the transom shield.  This is to encourage you to send them back to us within
45 days. The shipping of these old parts back is your responsibility.   Volvo Penta wants these back,
they do not care what condition, so that they are off the market. 
 
I will need to know the serial number of the engine and drive and they registered to you.  If they
are not registered please let me know and I can register them for you.
 
I also need these serial numbers so I can make sure you get the other parts that you might need
to do this upgrade.   The additional parts are part of the upgrade but the differ depending on what
set up you.
 
The other issue is whether you want to replace the drive with a DPS-B (about $10,500) or the DPS-B OXI (Ocean X series) (about $11,500) version.   There is no difference in performance, but the Ocean X series is more corrosion resistant as it has an additional coating put on it.  Unless you have had corrosion issues, I am not completely convinced the $1000 difference is fully justified.  
 
However, the Ocean X series option comes with propeller hubs that you can put into your existing propellers (the ones from your XDP) while the DPS-B option does not come with prop hubs so you have to purchase them (around $350) unless you also want to purchase completely new props ($750 for aluminum and $1,595 stainless steel prop set).  So really the difference between the two drives is really only about $650.
 
I think the upgrade is well worth doing as Volvo  Penta has had many issues with the XDP drives.  We seem to find that a boat with the XDP setup is discounted by $10,000 as the market has realized that the XDP drive is a problem.
 
 
J. D. Neeson
 
 
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Dear sir or madame,
 
I’m an owner of a Monterey 322 with faulty Volvo Penta XDP-B drives. I’ve seen on your blog, that Volvo extended the upgrade promotion until end of this year. 
 
I’really would like to use this upgrade promotion and would like to ask you for help to place my request just in time.
 
My only issue is that I’m from Germany and all of the local Volvo dealers here have no experiences with these drives.
 
Thanks for your help in advance.
 

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Last update: 2015-02-26 20:10


250 engine question

Hello Sir:

The 250 engine is a 2.3 Volvo Penta block connected to a SP-C drive.

Both the 4.3 and the 5.0 engines are based on GM Chevy blocks.   These engines come with a SX drive (usually).

So with the two different manufacturers making the basic block, it is not easily possible to mix a new type engine (4.3 and 5.0) with the older drive or conversely is it not  very easy to put a new SX drive on the old 250 engine.

It is possible, but the amount of money needed to allow the new type of engines to work with the older SP-C type drive makes it not worth it  (approximately $3,500 for the adapter parts alone).

So it is better to either replace the whole package  with a new package or purchase a rebuilt 250 engine somewhere and reuse the SP-C drive.

Volvo Penta offers a V6-200 engine/SX drive package for $14,500 (engine, transom adapter, transom shield, drive, basic panel and prop).

All prices are quoted in U.S. dollars.  While Marine Parts Express will attempt to minimize the amount owed, any duties or tariffs are the responsibility of the purchaser.

Thank you and let me know if I can help further.

J.D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-02-26 20:15


120S sail drive question

Hello:

You didn't mention the ratio of your 120S saildrive, but the attached quote is the same whether you have the 2.19 or the 2.47:1 ratio.

Volvo Penta replaces the 120 saildrive with the 130 saildrive.  If the serial number of the sail drive is below 3101089439 then  you need all the parts in the attached quote.

If your serial number is above 3101089439 then you need to just replace the saildrive and the coupler (3885414).

Although the 120S saildrive is no longer offered by Volvo Penta I do have a good used one for $6,450.  

All prices are quoted in U.S. dollars.  While Marine Parts Express will attempt to minimize the amount owed, any duties or tariffs are the responsibility of the purchaser.

Thank you and please don't hesitate to contact us if you need any more information or would like to place an
order.

J.D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-02-26 20:17


Volvo Penta 2002 question

Hello:

If you have a 2002 with a serial number below 2300046825 then you need to go with 21134777 pump and the new pipe 840001.

If you have a 2002 with a serial number above 2300046825 or if you have a 2002B or a 2002D then you need the 859428 pump.  

In either case you should order the little O-rings and the gaskets to go along with pump.

Hope this helps.



J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-02-26 20:18


Oil questions

Hello:

On the oil question I have three thoughts.

1)  Any chance that someone has overfilled this drive a bit?  It happens all time.  I would drain it and refill it to exactly what the book says  (I can get this amount if you don't have it.  I will need the serial number of the drive though to make sure I give you the correct amount.  They change a little between model years).

2)  If you have a tiny leak around the shaft seals you sometimes can get water into gear which will act like you have over filled the gear.  So I would drain the drive and see if you get more out than you should and examine the fluid to see if it looks milky at all.   And while you are at it rub the fluid between your fingers to see if you feel any grit (metal).   It doesn't take much water, at the higher RPM, to pressurize the overfilled engine so
the oil pushes up.

3)  Does the fluid get really hot when this happens?  If so it could be you have a bearing that is overheating.  This is pretty rare, but it can make the fluid so hot that it sort of bubbles.       

Hope this helps.

J.d.

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Last update: 2015-02-26 20:20


Volvo Synthetic Diesel Oil Question

Hello Sir:

I did not order this yet as you asked for the engine oil 1141626 which turns into 40005015.  This is synthetic diesel oil and Volvo Penta no longer supplies this oil.

What the manual for the D3-200 recommends is VDS-3 oil (non synthetic oil).  I quoted this type, but you are not supposed to mix synthetic and non-synthetic together so if you have been using synthetic you might want to continue to do so.

While Volvo Penta no longer supplies synthetic diesel oil, I can supply it as an aftermarket part.

Please let me know.

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-02-26 20:26


Symptoms of a Faulty Pump/PN 21242092 ECM Question

Hello:

 I double checked the serial number of the engine with the module.   I checked the old module and followed the supercessions.  I found the bullentin discussing this and they all confirmed that the 21242092 ECM was the correct one.

My belief is that he had a faulty fuel injection pump.  On our web site we have a couple of blogs and newsletters discussing these pumps.

They are made by Carter for Volvo Penta and the two companies have been blaming each other for the problems for years.  They finally have come up with a pump that seems to work well 21608511 and the pumps come with a year warranty.

Before they did come up with this new pump they had gone through 4 version of this pump and last year I probably sold 250 of them.

The symptoms of a faulty pump can be all over the map, but below are some of them:

1)  A high pitched screaming 
2)  Rough running engine sometimes at high RPM or some times only at low RPM or sometimes at both.
3)  The engine will run perfectly then stop.
4)  The engine will overheat and then not overheat.
5)  A funny smell of gas in the exhaust.

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-03 15:05


Paint for Volvo 270/280 Question

Hello:
Part number 1141567 is the paint for the Volvo Penta 270 and some early 280 outdrives. Volvo Penta formulates the paint through a vendor (which may causae a delay in delivery) and if the paint can has the proper number on it 1141567 that color is the blue/grey which sort of looks greenish.
Can you confirm to me which outdrive you have?  I will look it up and make sure you ordered the correct paint.
J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-03 15:15


NLA Condenser and Breaker Question

Hello Sir:

The condenser and breakers that you need are both NLA (no longer available) parts, but I do have them in stock.  The prices are a bit higher as I had to pay more for them as they are fairly rare. The 18-5212 is a Sierra part that is no longer supplied by Sierra so you need to use the OEM number.

Please let me know if you would like to go forward with this order.

J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-03 15:22


TAMD22P Perkins Block Question

Hello:
All of the Perkins parts are working their way to you except for U5LC0015 which is the gasket kit.  This gasket kit, per Perkins in the UK, will be at least three weeks (probably closer to four weeks).  Everything else should show up in about a week (minus the three parts you have received).

On the attached quote is a quote for the overhaul gasket kit for a TAMD22P engine made by Volvo Penta.  As you probrably know, the Prima 30 and the Volvo 22 are made from the same Perkin's block and many, but not all , of the gaskets would overlap be the same.

This Volvo Penta gasket is available now so I could send it off to you.  It is a bit higher than the Perkins version and there may be a few gaskets that are not the same or are missing, but most should be the same.  You will have to be careful when using the Volvo gasket kit and check the gaskets carefully before using them.

As of now we still have the Perkins kit on order (incidentally, Perkins showed a couple of these kits available when we ordered, but when they went to pull them, they were not there - very strange).

Please let me know what you would like to do.

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-03 15:25


Unit Injection Replacement Number/Core Charge Question

Hello Sir:

The unit injection 20440388 has been changed to 3801437.  This is a "NEW EXCHANGE" so the part is new, but has a core charge connected to it. Volvo Penta does this to get back the old injectors in case they want to establish a remanufacturing program.
The core charge, designated as 3804437, is refundable once we receive the old injector cores back to us
at Marine Parts Express.
Thank you and please don't hesitate to contact us if you need any more information or would like to place an

order.
J.D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-03 15:29


AQ190 (Ford Block 302) Manifold Question

Hello:
The log type of manifolds for the AQ190 (Ford block 302) are no longer available and it has been a long time since
I have been able to find them.

So attached is a kit that we have sold before that turns the manifolds into a center rise type.  It works well and
is the best solution.

Thank you and please don't hesitate to contact us if you need any more information or would like to place an
order.

J.D. Neeson
 

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Last update: 2015-03-03 15:34


Volvo PN 3588865 Fuel Pump Question

Hello Sir:
The 3588865 fuel pump is just the high pressure pump for the fuel cell.  I can supply this.  But Volvo Penta strongly recommends that the whole fuel cell should be replaced.

Carter pumps (they make the pumps for Volvo Penta) and Volvo Penta have been fighting over who is responsible for the problems that some people have experienced with these pumps.  They blame each other.  (There is a further discussion on this issue in our blog).

So Volvo Penta and Carter has superseded the fuel cell a number of times until they have come up with a fuel cell that is better and more resistant to fuel contamination (it may be the ethanol in the fuel is partially to blame).  It also has a one year warranty.

If, on the other hand, you just replace the high pressure pump and it fails, there is no warranty as Volvo Penta says that everyone needs to go to the up dated fuel cell.

Sometimes I wonder about Volvo Penta recommendations, but in this case, I believe they are correct and you should replace the whole fuel cell.

The riser gaskets come two in a package so you only need two packages.

Thank you and please let me know what you would like us to do and also where you would like us to ship your order.  In the past I see we have sometimes shipped to hotel rooms in the states, but we can ship to Venezuela as well.

JD

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Last update: 2015-03-03 15:39


Servo Unit for D4-300D-A Question

Hello:
I do have  the Servo Unit in stock and available now.  It will have to be programmed which takes about two days.  This is a new Servo Unit, however there is a core charge on this Servo Unit.  This means that Volvo Penta is trying to get back your old damaged unit.  They investigate why if failed and sometimes rebuild them for use within Volvo Penta.  To encourage you to send the old  unit back they charge a $1,000 refundable core charge.  Once we get back your old unit, we will reimburse you the $1,000 that we charged you.

On the Expired Voltage Converter the price is higher than retail as this is a very rare item.  The person who I
found that had one of these charges a premium as they are so rare. I do NOT think this is the correct voltage Converter for your engine.  The  3842462 voltage Convertor was only used on the Volvo Penta D11 series engines.

You have a D4-300D-A engine that uses a different voltage convertor.  I am going to send you a new quote with what I think is the correct convertor. 

Please check with your mechanic.

J.D.  

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Hello:

Attached is a new quote that includes the Voltage regulator that I show goes with your D4-300A-D with an IPS-B (IPS 400). I feel pretty confident that this is the one you should use.

I am happy to supply the expired regulator, but I think you should check with your mechanic.

Please don't hesitate to contact me if you have any further questions.

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-03 15:44


Volvo Kit to Analyze Antifreeze Question

Good morning.

I work with volvo penta engines. I would like to know if you have any kit to analyze the antifreeze (green). In the manual brand to analyze but I have no benchmarks. The engine that we use on board isthe C D16 to MG.

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Hello:

 

You can pick up a Specific gravity tester at any auto repair place (about $15).  You suck up a little of the anti-freeze and it will tell you to what degree the engine is protected to.   In the old days it had three or four balls that would float and tell  you what temperature you are protected to, but now they usually have an arm that points to the degrees. This will let you know whether the mixture is correct, but will not tell you if the anti-freeze is dirty or has begun to break down.

 

You can do some of it by sight and see if the anti-freeze looks clean, doesn’t smell oddly and doesn’t have an oily feel to it. 

 

The Coast Guard sometimes sends samples off to a lab to check, but most times it is not worth doing this unless you are trying to do some problem analysis.

 

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-03 15:50


Volvo Expired Seawater Pump Question

Hello:

I am sorry, but the 3587508 seawater pump has gone obsolete .  Volvo Penta no longer offers the pump.

I do have a source for one of these, but the price is higher as the old pirate who has one of these knows they
are no longer available.  It is a day or so away from us.

I do also have a couple good used under the earlier number 828023 ones of these.  The price for one of these is $225.  We guarantee that it is in good condition and that it works, but there is no warranty on used parts.  If you received it and it was not what you expected we would take it back.

You will note on your quote that I also included a 3808056 kit which you may or may not need.  The pump 3587508
requires this kit, but you may have already replaced the pipe in the past.  If you decide to go with the 3587508 you should get this kit and return it if you don't need it.

Thank you.

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-03 15:52


AQ130 Fuel Pump Question

Hello:

The fuel pump for the AQ130 type pump is a long expired pump, but we have one new one left on our shelves.

But before you get this you should check to see which Volvo Penta engine you actually have.  There is also an AQ131 engine that covers 1975 year and it uses a different pump (less expensive also).

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-03 15:54


Expired Throttle Body Repair Kit Question

Hello:

The Throttle Body repair kit no longer exists and I can not find one anywhere. I can supply the fuel regulator (3808522) and I can supply some of the gaskets for the fuel injectors (18-7690), but that is it.

If you want to send us your TBI I might be able to get it rebuilt.  There are a number of   rebuilders that somehow piece together parts.

I am sorry, I can't be of more help.

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-03 15:56


Expired Alternator Tensioner Question

Hello Sir:

The alternator tensioner 857441 is no longer available and I couldn't find anyone who had one in stock.

However, I do have the earlier version of the tensioner which should work, but it is more expensive.
If you ordered this and it would not fit we would take it back for a full part refund.

Please let me know if you want to try the 855390 version and I am sorry I could not find the later version.

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-03 15:58


Volvo Expired Hoses Question

Hello:

 

You ordered two expired hoses 3860019 and 3860298.  They have been expired quite awhile  I can probably get these for you (or an equivalent ones), but I need to know where they are and where they go to and from.

 

I suspect that these are part of a F/W cooling kit so I included a schematic showing one that was used on a similar engine.  Don’t worry about the part numbers from the schematic, but if you could ID which hoses you need, I should be able to find them for you.

 

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-03 16:00


Bearing Cap Replacement Question

Hello Sir:

You can just replace the bearing cap on this engine.  The bearing caps and the block side of the cap are machined
together.

If you need to replace the bearing cap you have to line bore the crankshaft bearing caps.  Volvo Penta does not
sell the bearing caps separately.  In Volvo Penta's view, if a bearing cap is bad (or spun which is what most times
happens), the block is considered ruined.

I can supply you with a good used complete block (with all the bearing caps) for $4,250.

I am sorry I can't give you better news. 

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-03 16:12


Volvo MD2040 Seals Question

Hello Mr Neeson,
i have 2 Volvo MD2040 with  Volvo saildrives on my catamaran . The engines are 13 years old (2300 hours each) and i have saltwater in both S-drives after 6 months. In the last 3 years the interval when i had water in my oil was getting down to 6 months. Every half a year i have to  change  both oil seals with original Vovlo seals that i bought from Marine Parts Express  and i still get milky oil and a 1 to 2 mm higher oil level on both engines.
I might have a problem with both propshafts.The aerea where the seals sit seem a bid more polished then the rest, but not worn out. But i am not an expert My French mechanic that helped me change youre seals at the beach in Mayotte was convinced they where of poor quality, possibly from China (his words)
I filled out 3 Forms on the Volvo Penta contact page with these questions and i did not get an answer from them.
I was always impressed with youre exellent customer service and therefore i ask you if you would know anybody that could help me fix this headache.
I am in Brazil and plan to sail to Trinidad for those repairs .
I  send you a mail about those seals getting rusty and them being magnetic in sept
Question  : Do you have an idea what my problem is?
Are there other areas where water can get in?
many thanks

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Hello Sir:

These seals came directly from Volvo Penta. They shipped out of the Volvo Penta warehouse
directly to us and then shipped to you.

I did call Volvo Penta technical and they agreed that the springs should be stainless steel.
They said that the Volvo Penta drawings show that the springs are stainless steel as well.
Volvo Penta is going to have the warehouse go check the supply of these. They will get
back to me with the results.

The problem may be that stainless steel can be magnetic depending upon the formation of
the stainless steel. Below is a write-up that I got from somewhere, back from the day
when I was doing destructive testing on SS that were used by Timken (the bearing company).
I loved the .

"Magnetic permeability is the ability of a material to carry magnetism, indicated by
the degree to which it is attracted to a magnet. All stainless steels, with the
exception of the austenitic group, are strongly attracted to a magnet.

Austenitic Grades

All austenitic grades have very low magnetic permeabilities and hence show almost
no response to a magnet when in the annealed condition; the situation is, however,
far less clear when these steels have been cold worked by wire drawing (I.E. MAKING
A SPRING), rolling or even centreless grinding, shot blasting or heavy polishing.
After substantial cold working Grade 304 may exhibit quite strong response to a
magnet, whereas Grades 310 and 316 will in most instances still be almost totally
non-responsive.

The change in magnetic response is due to atomic lattice straining and formation
of martensite. In general, the higher the nickel to chromium ratio the more stable
is the austenitic structure and the less magnetic response that will be induced by
cold work. Magnetic response can therefore be used as a method for sorting grades
of stainless steel, but considerable caution needs to be exercised.

Stress Relieving

Any austenitic (300 series) stainless steel which has developed magnetic response
due to cold work can be returned to a non-magnetic condition by stress relieving.
In general this can be readily achieved by briefly heating to approximately
700 - 800°C (this can be conveniently carried out by careful use of an
oxy-acetylene torch). Note, however, unless the steel is a stabilized grade
it could become sensitized to carbide precipitation. Full solution treatment at
1000 - 1150°C will remove all magnetic response without danger of reduced
corrosion resistance due to carbides.

If magnetic permeability is a factor of design or is incorporated into a
specification, this should be clearly indicated when purchasing the stainless
steel from a supplier.

Cold Working

Many cold drawn and/or polished bars have a noticeable amount of magnetism as a
result of the previous cold work. This is particularly the case with grades 304
and 303, and much less so for the higher nickel grades such as 310 and 316.
Even within the chemical limitations of a single standard analysis range there
can be a pronounced variation in the rate of inducement of magnetic response from
cold work.

Magnetically Soft Stainless Steels

In some applications there is a requirement for a steel to be "magnetically soft".
This is often required for solenoid shafts, where it is necessary for the plunger to
respond efficiently to the magnetic field from the surrounding coil when the current
is switched on, but when the current is switched off the magnetic field induced in
the steel must quickly collapse, allowing the plunger to return to its original
position. Steels which behave in this way are said to be magnetically soft.

For corrosion resisting applications there are ferritic stainless steels which
are magnetically soft, usually variants of a grade "18/2" (18% chromium and 2%
molybdenum) but with very tightly controlled additions of silicon and often with
sulphur added to make them free machining. Special mill processing guarantees
the magnetic properties of the steels.

I appreciate you letting me know on this as it is possible that Volvo's supplier slipped in some duds. Volvo Penta has pretty robust QA procedures, but it may not be something they check.

J. D. Neeson
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Hello Sir:
 
Back in September, I talked with the Volvo boys and they eventually got back to me and assured me there was not an issue with the seals.  Supposedly, any time Volvo Penta changes suppliers for a part the part number is supposed to change as well.  This seal has the same number and according to Volvo Penta tech guys, they have not changed manufacturers.
 
I can't really remember what the seals that I sold five years ago, but I have to admit that the newer ones don't look as beefy.  But that might just be my memory playing tricks.
 
I think more likely your sail drive shafts are slightly bent.  When you next take out the boat  you should have your mechanic put a dial indicator on them and see if they are true.  Supposedly they can't be more than 4 thousandths from true.  If they are a little off they will, over time, eat up the seals.  This would explain why the seals are not lasting as long each time.
 
I spend a couple of minutes trying to find an aftermarket equivalent seal for 3593663, but I wasn't able to so I think you are stuck with Volvo PEnta's seal.
 
J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-03 16:24


Volvo 3852692 Push Rod Expired Question

Hello Sir:

The 3852692 is an expired gasket.  I don't have one, but I did find one, but note the price is much higher.

The push rods are expired 3853137 and no one has them.  I can give you these in Mercruiser which should be
exactly the same, but you would have to get them and compare them to yours to confirm (I don't have access
to the measurements so I can't do them up here).  If they were not the same we could then shift to aftermarket
and get them to you especially if you send one of yours to us for measurments.

These 3.0s from 1994-1996 are just not supported too well any longer, but most times we can get the parts.

Please let me know.

J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-03 16:26


Volvo Universal Joint 3841481 RPL 22197130 Question

Hi,
I already received the package but inform you that the bellows kit is not referred brand Volvo Penta and is not even for the model of the column which is unacceptable because I sent them the elements/references in due time. I'll return as soon as possible.
Regards,

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Hello Sir:
The bellows  you received from us 22197130 is the correct bellows.  These bellows replace 3841481 which was the original number.  Volvo Penta changed the part number about two years ago.  They should be identical.

But  you are welcome to send it back and we will give you a full part refund.  You might want to send it back by mail as it tends to be least expensive.

The part 3841481 which Volvo Penta turns into 22197130 is the bellows for the Universal Joint on a DP-S and the SX Volvo Penta stern drives.  

The exhaust bellows for the DPS and SX-M drive is part number 3850426.

If you can describe your need, I might be able to help identify what you need.

And, my only Portuguese " Bom Dia".  

J.D.

 

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Last update: 2015-03-03 16:31


TAMD63P-A Fuel Valve Question

Hello,
I need your help again...
This time I am having trouble with a TAMD63P-A.
The port engine will not shut down... It will not shut off using the key switch. I already replaced the key switch figuring that was it for sure but no luck.
Have you heard of this issue before?
Can you help me with a tech that is familiar with the TAMD?
 Thanks in advance for your help.
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Hello:
There is a fuel valve (solenoid) that cuts off the engine and your magnet (solenoid) is
faulty.
 
If you have a 12 volt system you need to order a 3828982 ($725)
If you have a 24 volt system then you would need a 3828983 ($675).
 
These do give up the ghost from time to time.  You might want to put a meter on the wire
and confirm you are getting power to the solenoid, but I bet it is the solenoid.
 
There is an emergency cut off on your fuel pump by the way.  It is a little handle on the
governor and sometimes it has a cable holding it on and you have to move it against
the cable to cut it off.
 
J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-03 16:34


DPS, DPS-A, and the SX drives Cylinder Question

Hello:

The kit we have and the repair kit number 3854247 is for the cylinders on a DPS and the SX drives.  I don't  have a kit for the DPS-A drive yet.

I am sorry, but Volvo Penta does not offer a repair kit for the DPS-A cylinders. They want you to purchase new cylinders.  

Your serial number shows that it is a DPS-A 2.31:1 ratio, but it doesn't tell me whether you have a full tilt, 42 degree or 32 degree.  Each version used a different cylinder, but I quoted you (in the attached) the full tilt version.

There is at least one company out there that claims they have made a cylinder rebuild kit (like we have done for the DP-S and SX-M ones), but I have not physically seen one yet so I can't speak to how well they work.  If you do 
get one can you let me know how they work?

And finally if your ram arm is badly corroded then it is probably not worth trying to reseal it unless you can clean up the arm.

In a day or so, we will have put on our web site the instructions for rebuilding the DP-S/SX drives which you might want to take a peek at so you can see what is involved if you purchase someone's aftermarket kit.   

J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-03 16:37


AQ271 or AQ260 Engine with a 280 Outdrive Question

Hello:
I suspect that originally you had an AQ271 (or AQ260) engine with a 280 outdrive.

The 280 outdrive is indestructible, but the technology has moved on and the newer drives more efficient and give better performance.  As we discussed on the phone, you shouldn't try to use your tilt system to trim the boat as it wasn't designed to handle the stress.  Eventually the vise rod will bend and the tilt won't work.  The trim is set by the trim bar on the exterior of the transom shield and the idea is that you put the bar in one of the five holes which holds the drive at a certain angle.

If you wanted to you could swap out the lower unit of the 280 drive with a 290 dual prop lower drive.  It takes about 15 minutes to do the swap and then you would have a dual prop.  It still doesn't have a trim, but you will get better performance and some fuel savings.  A new lower unit is about $4,200, but I bet you could find a good used one if you look around.  You want a ratio of 1.95:1, but for about $2,500 we could change the ratio if you find a good inexpensive one out in the world.  Sometimes you can find a complete unit and just use the lower unit and sell the upper and intermediate units to help offset a cost.  A new aluminum prop set is about $650 dollars.  If you look you can use a 290DP or a DP-A or a DP-B on your existing set up.

The other option is to swap out the entire transom shield and 280 outdrive with a new SX or DPS outdrive and SX transom shield.  This would mean that you have a drive that is newer and has a fully hydraulic trim and tilt system. You would get better performance from either of them and the dual prop would give you better control at lower speeds, better fuel economy and about a 15% increase at the top end.  You would want a 1.6 or a 1.66 ratio for the SX drive and a 1.95:1 for the DPS drive.  

Volvo Penta makes a nice adapter plate that will allow you to put on a new transom shield without having to do any work on the transom (the hole).  The adapter plate costs about $700 and while I doubt that you will find a used one, you should be able to find either a good used SX or DPS drive somewhere.  Again if you find a drive that is good and inexpensive, we can always change the ratio (most times) for about $3000.  

A new transom shield is about $3,500 and the SX transom shield is used for both the SX single prop and the DP-S dual prop.  Used transom shields are fairly common and sometimes you can get pretty inexpensive ones and then spend a little bit fixing them up.

A new SX drive is about $7,500 and a new DPS drive is about $9,500, but used ones are out there.  We often find good deals in complete boats that have had something terrible happen to them.  You can strip off the drive and transom shield and then scrap the boat.

If you find some used parts that sound interesting, please feel free to contact me about them and I can give you an idea on what they might be worth or what it would take to fix them up.

Please feel free to call me if you need anything or would like to discuss this further.

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-03 16:48


Volvo Penta Pump Part Number 21608512 Question

Thanks for the prompt response. The part number that I was given is 3594785. I do not need a ethanol resistant pump, as the marinas in the Florida Keys where I keep the boat do not sell fuel containing ethanol. Additionally, the boat is 38' and not trailerable, so I do not buy fuel at roadside gas stations that often use this additive. Please advise if the above part number will work and I will place the order.
I have purchased numerous parts from your company and always appreciate your professionalism.
Regards,
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Hello Sir:
 
The problem with these pumps is that the cause of the issues some people have has never been
very well explained.  Carter, who makes the pumps claims that it is Volvo Penta's applications
while Volvo Penta says that it is Carter's pumps that are the problem.  Apparently there have
been law suit threats from both sides.
 
What this means is that Volvo Penta has discontinued about six versions of these pumps and
says that only the most recent version 21608512 should be used.  All of the other earlier
pumps (like the 3594785) are supposed to have been returned to Volvo Penta (where I assume
they throw them at Carter's executives) and that there is no warranty on any of the earlier
pumps.
 
So I can only sell you the 21608512 pump.  You might be able to find someone out there
who has an earlier pump, but remember that it will have no warranty.  I
 
Given all the troubles with these pumps, I think it is wiser to purchase the new version and get
the full one year warranty.
 
Please let me know if you would like to go ahead with this.
 
I am sorry there is no other solution to this.
 
J,D.

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Last update: 2015-03-03 16:52


Volvo Sealant 1161099 Expired/ Permatex #3 Question

Hello Sir:

The sealant 1161099 is no longer available from Volvo Penta.

However, Volvo Penta mentioned, in one of their service manuals, that you
can use Permatex #3 can be used instead.

I can supply you with this or you can run down to NAPA and get it from them.

Let me know which way you go and I will process the order.

J.D.
    

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Last update: 2015-03-03 16:57


DP-E Drive Hose Attachment Question

Hi JD, it seems clear that the engine ending in 3702 did come with my boat when the fellow I bought it from purchased it new in 2002. The Volvo paperwork he gave me from the original purchase would indicate that, and I'm going to ask him for an original bill of sale also. I spoke to the person whose name is on the Volvo paperwork, he is a charter captain in Alaska and put over 5,000 miles on his engines. He sold the boat in 2008-09 doesn't have any paperwork anymore. It looks like the engines were made on the same day, therefore, I think somebody transposed a number at Volvo. If you would ask him about it I would appreciate it. 
Thanks very much,
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JD, do you want me to send you a copy of the paperwork from Volvo before you talk to them? I can get it scanned in and sent to you , or mail you a copy.
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Hello:
 
You can, but let us wait until Volvo Penta comes back to us.  I don't want to give them
anything that they can point to until they do the investigation.
 
I am think you are probably correct in your assumption.
 
J.D.
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JD, do you have the hose attachment that fits over the inlets on the DP-E drives? its V shaped since the intakes are right at the leading edge.
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Hello:
 
I found this one also.
 
There are no "mickey mouse"  ears that will work with the DP-E drives.  The Volvo Penta drives do not have an impeller in the foot so unless you really seal the mitts to the drive (with duck tape) you can't get sufficient water flow.  So most times I recommend that you take off the hose from the RW pump and put on a temp. hose whose other end is in a bucket.  It makes it easy to run the engine and do the winterization with non-toxic antifreeze as well.
 
J.D.
 

 

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2030A, 2030B, 2030C, 2030D Damper Question

Hello:
No trouble helping with this, but I need to know which 2030 you have?
The 2030As, 2030Bs, 2030Cs and Ds use different adapter housing.
I also need to know which 120S saildrive you have.  Again differences
between 120S-E or 120S-B ect.
J.D.

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Dear J.D.,

thank you for sending the parts information.  Why would I need a different damper for the newer motor, could I use the one from the older motor on the new one?  I am not sure if the newer motor comes with a damper already.  Does the damper have a mating coupling to the sail drive, or is it at the "free end of the motor?

I have not completed the purchase yet so I am not quite ready to place the order.

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Hello:
 
Depending on which 2030 you have, you may or may not have to change anything. 
 
The damper is a disc that is bolted to the flywheel.  In the old days it has springs, but
now most have rubber in them.  In the center of the damper is the hole (with spaces for the
saildrive splines) that the shaft from saildrive goes into.  The damper is the connection
between the engine and the drive and it absorbs the initial torque and allows some flexibility
when the engine is running.
 
Most times you replace the old damper with a new one especially since it is such a pain
to change later.  Also remember that the MD2030 has a different footprint.  This is not an
issue unless your 2003 is installed in one of the premade fiberglass engine bed.  I doubt
that your new engine will have a damper as the damper is specific to what gear or drive
you have connected to the engine.
 
Just an aside, remember the MD2030s are no longer offered by Volvo Penta new, but almost all
of the parts for the engines are still available.  Back when Volvo Penta sold these engines new,
the price for a bobtail was about $9,500.   The MD2030 is actually a Perkins block that Volvo
Penta played with. 
 
If you are paying above $5K for this MD2030 you might want to look at new engines or maybe
new engine packages.  What many people do is buy a whole new package like a D1-30 with
a 130 saildrive (around $13K) then sell the old engine and the drive to offset the difference.
 
J.D.
 
 

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Last update: 2015-03-03 17:16


838310 Replaced by 855872 Question

Hello Sir:
Your power steering pump 838310 has been superceeded to a new pump number 855872. BUT you must use your old pulley and hub from your old pump. If your pulley or hub are distroyed and you can't use them
again, let me know and I can find you a work around.
J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-03 17:18


Filter Question

Hello:

In the attached quote I have quoted you three alternators.

The 3884950 is the Volvo Penta OEM version.

The 18-5882 is the Sierra.  I only found one or two references for this being a replacement for the 3884950 and Sierra actually does not include this number as one of them.  However they do include the earlier number for this alternator.

If you want to go aftermarket I would go with the Arco 60073 alternator which is a direct replacement and less expensive.  However, these aftermarket ones are not quite as strongly built, but they work fine.

Volvo Penta would be horrified to hear that you are thinking of using a non-volvo synthetic oil, but I think as long as yours meets the specifications and you don't go really cheap then you would probably be OK.

The ZF63 does use the Dextron III AFT.  I quoted you the Volvo Penta ZF filter which is, for some odd reason, less expensive than the ZF version.  We have both.

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-03 17:24


MS4A Sliding Sleeve Replacement Question

Hello:

Attached is the quote for the sliding sleeve for your MS4A. You will note that I included a whole bunch of shims.  These shims are needed when you  put the gear back together to make sure you have the proper rolling torque.  You will probably only need to use three or four of these shims, but there is no way to know which thicknesses you will need.  So I gave you two of all of them.  The ones you don't need you can send back to us for a full credit.  Please, keep them in their original bags so we can ID which is which and give you full credit.

When replacing your sleeve you will have to replace the dog (clutch) which I included in the quote. You will also have to replace the needle bearings (now they are just bearings) so I included these as well.

And finally, I included a gasket kit which includes all the gaskets and seals you will need to re-assemble the gear.

I have also included a shop manual (don't tell Volvo Penta I gave it to you) which shows how to rebuild these transmissions.  If you read over the manual once or twice you should be able to do the rebuild.  Just take
your time as the rolling torque is not difficult just frustrating.

If you decide you don't want to do the work, you can always send us the gear and we will rebuild it for you.  We would have to see the gear, but rebuilds of the MS4 gears usually range between $1,800 to $3,200.

Thank you.

J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-03 17:31


AQAD40B Rear Crankshaft Repair Sleeve Question

Hello,

Volvo AQAD40B Rear crankshaft repair sleeve. Have change two rear seals already but cannot stop oil leak. Does Volvo make a repair sleeve?

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Hello:
 
Volvo Penta does not make a sleeve, but I could supply an aftermarket "speedi-sleeve" for about
$75 (which inlcudes the applicator tool).  Then you use the same seal.
 
J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-03 17:51


Arco Starter Aftermarker Question

Arco has a starter (aftermarker PN AR97225) for about $350 less than the Volvo Starter PN 3581774 that fits certain 40, 41, and 42 series. Check before ordering. We have sold these before with no issues

 

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Last update: 2015-03-03 17:56


Volvo PN 3803309 Back Order Question

Hello:

The head 3803309 is on long term back order at Volvo Penta.  I talked with Volvo Penta last Friday and they told me that the leadtime is expected to be a year (perhaps more). Apparently Volvo Penta needs to find cores that are rebuildable and is unable to find them.

I do have a rebuildable head that we have rebuilt.  It comes with the same one year warranty as does the Volvo Penta new one.

I think you will have to accept the rebuilt one as I could not find anybody either in the U.S. or overseas that had one of the 3803309s in their stock.

Thank you and please don't hesitate to contact us if you need any more information or would like to place an
order.

J.D. Neeson
President

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Last update: 2015-03-03 18:00


Volvo Damper 3884460 Question

Hello Sir:

Your original damper was a 3860981 which Volvo Penta superceeded to a 3884460 which is no longer
manufactured by Volvo Penta.  I called Volvo Penta and they had no recommendations.

What we have done in the past is to replace your round coupling with a ZF Marine gear coupling which is sort of
star shapped.  It looks a little different, but it fits on your flywheel and the gear will connect properly (remember
ZF marine gear bought out the Hurth gear company in 1996).

In the attached quote I supplied you with a ZF Marine OEM damper and an aftermarket one that Crusader offers.

I think the Crusader one is probably OK, but since it is such a hassle to replace these I would be tempted to go with the ZF one.

Thank you and please don't hesitate to contact us if you need any more information or would like to place the order
for one of these.

J.D. Neeson
President

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Last update: 2015-03-03 18:03


Volvo Penta 875697/21651364 Question

Hello:

Volvo Penta got back to me about the difference between the earlier number 875697 and the 21651364. Both of them have the same impeller and the same gasket.  The 875697 has an extra washer 827020 which you might not need anymore and 21951364 has a tube of grease.

So the attached quote means we can get the parts to you as soon as you wish (I picked 2nd day drop) and you will have to either throw in the grease or include it with the shipment out.  Doing this means that you in effect get the part  number 21651364 (with one extra washer).

Please let me know.

J.d.

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Last update: 2015-03-03 18:15


Volvo Penta 2003T Turbo Question

Volvo Penta 2003T

Ok, I looked up the turbo price. Im better now but still a little weak. I have two "cores" one in worse shape than the other but both the reason for squirting oil out the exhaust, I think. With one oil line plugged I can blow through the other and air comes out both sides of the turbine, easily. I can wobble the turbine axle up and down about 1/32 on one and 1/8 on the other. I can send both cores for an exchange, if it helps bring the price down a little more?? Of course it would be nice to be able to just buy the parts, but.
Cheers,
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Hello:
 
You can send in the core first and then we won't have to charge you a core charge.  On the second core, I can give you $100 for it (I will use it as core sometime in the future).
 
The nice thing is that Volvo Penta does not care about the condition of the cores.  Originally the idea was that they would rebuild these turbos, but they never got around to doing so.  I have a vision of some warehouse filled to the brim with old never to be used turbos!
 
The 1/32 is on the edge and might be OK (maybe), but the 1/8 side to side is way too much.  The danger is if the turbo comes apart and little pieces of metal from the vanes are pushed through into  your engine.  If the turbo just siezes the engine won't well, but it won't damage anything.
 
J.D.'

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Last update: 2015-03-03 18:17


Volvo 873531 RPL 22314183 Question

Hello:
 
Volvo Penta is still having some issues on these, but they have contacted with a new
vendor for this part.  This means there is a new part number for the 873531  which
is 22314183.  It should be the exact same part, but from a different vendor
and a new part number.   However, the price has increased to $231.54 each.
This new part number is so new that it hasn't been officially entered into the
parts systems as of yet.
 
I talked with Volvo Penta today and they said the new part number should be
in their hands by February 6th (500 pieces) and then a next batch of 500 on March
6th.
 
Do you want to order a pair of these?
 

J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-03 19:35


Volvo Head 26430693 Question

Hello Sir:

I am sorry, but the head (26430693) for your fuel injection pump is obsolete. The entire pump (that includes the head), fuel inj. pump 37740, is also obsolete. I looked world wide for either part and was unable to find one.

However, I do have a good used fuel injection pump from a Marine 6.354.4M.  The pump is not exactly the same pump as yours, but the head that is in this pump should be the same as the head in your pump.

The other option is for you to give me all the information that is on the fuel injection metal plate on the pump.  It should read CAV then have the DPA number (like 3362F201) and the DSA number (like 475) and then a serial number and a mod number.

If you give me all the info. on the plate, I might be able to find an aftermarket fuel injection pump through CAV and perhaps a head.  This may not be possible, but I can try.

The other option is to send me your  pump along and I may be able to rebuild it using a mix of new and good used parts.

JD.

Thank you and please don't hesitate to contact us if you

need any more information or would like to place an

order.

 

J.D. Neeson

 

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Last update: 2015-03-03 19:37


Volvo DP-H Prop Shaft Question

Hello:
 
I am sorry, but the prop shafts on the DP-H drives are unique enough that I can't offer an
alternative to the G props.
 
From time to time we get used props sets in so I can keep your name.
 
Also there is a company that claims that they are going to begin to offering aftermarket
versions of this prop.  Try me again in about two months and you can give these
a try.  This is the same company that came out with DP-S aftermarket props and
we have had a couple of customers like them.
 
J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-03 19:38


"Part Found" Question

volvo MD2040B

Hello,
Is there a way to tell on your website if parts are in stock?
When it says "part found" does it mean it is in stock or just that the part number is valid?

Regards

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Hello:
 
It can mean both.
 
We have a large stock that is constantly changing due to our volume.  So most times if it says
part found it means that it is in stock and we have it.
 
But sometimes our stock is depleted before the web site gets updated so sometimes we don't
actually have it in stock.  It usually takes about two days for us to restock.
 
However, MD2040B engines are discontinued through Volvo Penta and Volvo Penta is a little
slack in supplying parts for some discontinued engines especially for engines like yours that
are built upon a Perkins block.
 
So if you let me know what you need, I can send you a quote along with any leadtimes.
 
We are also able to drop ship directly from Volvo PEnta so if you are in a hurry we can drop
it directly to you.
 
JD

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Last update: 2015-03-03 19:40


Volvo AQ170 Aftermarket Tach Set Question

Hello:

Attached is a quote for the swapping of the pump from the one with the tach sensor in it to the other pump. This should work, but I have to comment that I can not guarantee that it will.  If this was my engine I would have no trouble doing this, but I am not going to mad at myself if it doesn't work correctly.

So we take the other  pump, fabricate the triangle plate (I have the drawings from Volvo Penta) that allows the pump to go onto the engine. Replace the companion flange on the follower shaft to allow the new pump.  And then take a tube set from an AQ170 cut off the pipes to allow the existing hoses connect to them (just like they do now).

Then you will  have to buy a new aftermarket tach set that drives off the alternator - probably around $300-400 or so.

I will send you a couple of schematics so you can see what I mean.

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-03 19:42


D2-55A PN 21951374 Now 877418 Question

Can you please tell me if the wear kit for a D2-55A #21951374 superceeds or is replaced by a new # because it is showing no stock with no price on Volvo.

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Hello

 The wear kit is still being sold under the early number of 877418, once these are sold the part will split to individual pieces

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Last update: 2015-03-03 19:44


Volvo PN 838697 Replacement Question

 

Hello,

 

 

 

What is the exchange part # for Volvo part # 838697. EPC says there one available for this but I am having trouble locating it.

 

 

 

Thanks,

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There is not an exchange number for 838697 directly. 838697 changes to 3 part numbers:

 

11994 (2) gaskets

861260 turbo (exchange # is 3802070)

969299 (1) hollow screw

 

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Last update: 2015-03-03 19:46


Volvo TAMD41 Compressor Question

Hello!
I stand AD41 two engines(TAMAHA SC32) if you have parts to upgrade the KAD42. It compressors with accessories, Thanks 

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Hello Sir:

If I understand, you want to know if you can put compressors on your TAMD41 engines.

While they will fit on your engine they won't work unless you do the following:

Replace all the injectors,
Recalibrate the fuel injection pump
Add cooling and oil lines
Add the exhaust pipes and change the front belts and pulley system
Replace all the pistons (different combustion chambers at the top of the piston).

So it is really not worth doing it.  The 42 series is the same size as the 41 so if you find a 42 engine it will fit in the same place as the 41.  

Hope this helps and please feel free to contact me if you want any further information.

J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-03 19:52


Volvo Consumer Affairs Question

Hi JD,
We have purchased a couple of ECU's for our volvo engine from you.
We are located in Mexico and our local Volvo dealer is letting us down permanently.
Do you have a contact in the US I can get in touch with to get service advice?
I know you are well connected and thought you have a person who might be able to help me instead of just contacting Volvo USA.
 
Thanks in advance and hope all is well on your side.
 
Best
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Hello:
 
I am sorry to hear about the problems that you are having with your Volvo Penta dealer.   The consumer affairs number at Volvo Penta is (757) 436-5100 and it might be worth calling them.
 
However, you may find out that Volvo Penta may just recommend that you have to talk with your local dealer.  So if you do call VPA make sure you have all the information about the dealer and a clear description of the problems you are having with him.
 
Make sure you have the serial number of your engines and all the issues you are having.
 
You might also want to send me a description of the issues you are having before you call them and I will see if I can give you some direction on what questions you should ask.
 
There are other Volvo Penta dealers in Mexico and you can find the other closest ones by using the Volvo Penta dealer locator on their site.
 
J.D.
 

 

 

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Last update: 2015-03-03 19:57


Volvo Penta 3807943 Prop Blades Expired Question

Hello:

I am sorry, but the 3807943 X4 blades are no longer available from Volvo Penta.  I looked around and was unable to find anyone who has this blade.

I can supply the 3807944 blades however. I do have a complete X4 prop set (blades and hub) (see attached quote).

However, once the prop sets are all sold Volvo Penta will not be making any new ones.  They are discontinuing the XDP drives completely.

Please let me know what you would like us to do.

J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-03 20:01


Volvo PN 3803543 Replaced by 3801641 Question

Hello Sir:
As we talked on the phone, Volvo Penta says both the original 300 head 3803543  is superseded by a 3801641.  The 3801641 is supposed to come out sometime in 2015.  But as Volvo Penta was unable to give me a quarter or even tell me which vendor is going to be making it I suspect that either it has not gone out to quote yet or if sent out, they received no bids.   But this is just my guess.

The original 44 head (which is the same as the 300 head although it had its own part number) supersedes to the 3803543 which in turn goes to the new number 3801641.  

However, I did find a fellow dealer that has a partially rebuilt KAMD44P.  He would rather sell the whole engine as a whole, but he is willing (grudgingly) to take off the head and sell it to us.  The price is a bit steep, but it is not all that much more than a new head if one was available.  The head has been rebuilt and is in perfect new condition.  He offers a one year warranty on it as well. If you go with this, I would bring the head in here and examine it and magniflux it to make sure  that it was perfect condition before sending it out.  I trust this guy as we do a lot of business, but it is always good to check.

J. D. Neeson

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JD
Thanks for getting back to me quickly. I have attached a copy of the picture they sent me (crack is hard to see but Im not the expert). Welcome any thoughts on the picture.
Regards
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Last update: 2015-03-05 15:54


Connector Kit for Reverse Gear Question

Hello:

 In the attached picture see the little square box where the water hose connects to that is bolted to the side of the gear. That is the cooler.

J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-05 15:58


PN 3858941 Throttle Body Repair Kit Question

Hello Sir:

 See how kit 3858941 shows that it includes #5 throttle body, #6 orings, #7 injectors, #8 filters,#8 filters, #11 gasket and #14 gasket. Would this be possible to work for you.

The entire throttle body complete is no longer offered by Volvo Penta.  I might be able to find you an aftermarket or rebuilt one, but the trouble is that this TBI is only used on the 4.3Gi engines from 1999 and 2000 so they are rare.

If you want me to look for the aftermarket version, I will need all the numbers that are on the tag.

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-05 16:02


PCU and EVC Question

Hello Sir:

Attached is a quote for a PCU   with the programming for your engines.  However, I need to know which version of EVC you have.

In the quote, I assumed you had an EVC-C3, but you need to look on the actual box which will tell you which one you have (you could have a EVC-E, EVC-C2 or a EVC-D).

The serial numbers you provided do come back as D4-300A-A, but Volvo Penta does not keep very good records on which EVC you have.  I can contact them and they will give me what they think is your EVC version, but I would much rather you physically check.

The price of the PCU and the programming does not change depending upon which EVC you have, but the part number does change.

Thank you. 

J.D.



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Last update: 2015-03-05 16:06


Issue Replacing 2002 with a 120SC with 130 Saildrive Question Part I

Hello Mike:
Below is the letter I wrote to the customer explaining what the issue is.  The questions I have are:
1)       Is the companion flange 3581117 coarse or fine splined (I think coarse)?
2)      Can the companion flange 3581117 be used with the 130S drive?  Is this permitted?
3)      Could the original companion flange be used with a splined sleeve.  I believe that part number 3583492 is a splined sleeve that can be used to go from course to fine.  Is there another splined sleeve that will go from fine to coarse?  And if so what is the part number?
Attached is the picture of the serial number of the 120SC drive.  It looks like the 3101008106 is the correct serial number, but I can't get it to come up. Customer is insistent that the engine S/N 2300029631 is correct.
Thank you for all your help on this.
J.D.
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Hello:
You are going to double check the serial numbers of the engine and the drive as neither comes up although the specification numbers show that your original set up was a 2002 (868093) with a 120SC (853656).  You are trying to replace the 120SC with the 130 saildrive.

The 2002 had two different flywheels:

 

Flywheel 840321 had holes on about 2/3 of the way to the edge which allows the vibration damper 21176531 to be used.  The 120SC was fine splined, but the 130 sail drive and the vibration damper are course splined.

Flywheel 861047 did not have bolt holes for the damper as it used the companion flange 840592 (fine splined) to act as the damper for the 120SC drive.

I believe, but can’t confirm, that you have the 861047 flywheel without the holes.  

In EPC the companion flange 840592 (fine splined) is superceeded (for use with a 130S) to 3581117 which I believe is coarse splined.

So I think you have to get 3581117 and use it instead of the damper plate 21176531 like the EPC says.

I am going to forward this on to Volvo Penta and get confirmation of the following questions:

1)       Is the companion flange 3581117 coarse or fine splined (I think coarse)?
2)      Can the companion flange 3581117 be used with the 130S drive?  Is this permitted?
3)      Could the original companion flange be used with a splined sleeve.  I believe that part number 3583492 is a splined sleeve that can be used to go from course to fine.  Is there another splined sleeve that will go from fine to coarse?  And if so what is the part number?

Please don’t despair we will figure this out.

J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-05 16:33


Issue with Replacing 2002 with 120SC with 130 Saildrive Question Part 2

Hello Mike:
Below is the letter I wrote to the customer explaining what the issue is.  The questions I have are:
1)       Is the companion flange 3581117 coarse or fine splined (I think coarse)?
2)      Can the companion flange 3581117 be used with the 130S drive?  Is this permitted?
3)      Could the original companion flange be used with a splined sleeve.  I believe that part number 3583492 is a splined sleeve that can be used to go from course to fine.  Is there another splined sleeve that will go from fine to coarse?  And if so what is the part number?
Attached is the picture of the serial number of the 120SC drive.  It looks like the 3101008106 is the correct serial number, but I can't get it to come up. Customer is insistent that the engine S/N 2300029631 is correct.
Thank you for all your help on this.
J.D.
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Hello:
You are going to double check the serial numbers of the engine and the drive as neither comes up although the specification numbers show that your original set up was a 2002 (868093) with a 120SC (853656).  You are trying to replace the 120SC with the 130 saildrive.

The 2002 had two different flywheels:

 

Flywheel 840321 had holes on about 2/3 of the way to the edge which allows the vibration damper 21176531 to be used.  The 120SC was fine splined, but the 130 sail drive and the vibration damper are course splined.

Flywheel 861047 did not have bolt holes for the damper as it used the companion flange 840592 (fine splined) to act as the damper for the 120SC drive.

I believe, but can’t confirm, that you have the 861047 flywheel without the holes.  

In EPC the companion flange 840592 (fine splined) is superceeded (for use with a 130S) to 3581117 which I believe is coarse splined.

So I think you have to get 3581117 and use it instead of the damper plate 21176531 like the EPC says.

I am going to forward this on to Volvo Penta and get confirmation of the following questions:

1)       Is the companion flange 3581117 coarse or fine splined (I think coarse)?
2)      Can the companion flange 3581117 be used with the 130S drive?  Is this permitted?
3)      Could the original companion flange be used with a splined sleeve.  I believe that part number 3583492 is a splined sleeve that can be used to go from course to fine.  Is there another splined sleeve that will go from fine to coarse?  And if so what is the part number?

Please don’t despair we will figure this out.

J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-05 16:32


MD5 and the MD6 Question

Hello Sir:

The MD5 and the MD6 are pretty different engines. Attached is a schematic of the MD6.  In a moment I will send the same for the MD5.

Thank you.

J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-05 16:36


MS25S Sail Drive Hub Tool Question

Hello:

 

I went through the MS25S sail drive manual and there is no special tool for this hub.

 

But then I got to wondering about what hub you are talking about.

 

Attached is a folding prop set up that could be on your MS25S.

 

J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-05 16:48


Fuel Pump 3594444 Replaced by 21608511 Question

Hello:

I wanted to explain about the fuel pump.

In the attached schematic the complete fuel pump is part number 3594444 which after many changes becomes 21608511.

Also in the attached  is the high pressure pump (part of the complete pump) with a number of 3588865.

So the complete fuel pump is made up of the low pressure base (with all of the parts and connections) and the high pressure pump.

Volvo Penta and Carter, who makes the pump, have had some issues so that is why the entire pump has changed

numbers so often.  The new pump has a one year warranty.

If however, you just swap out the high pressure pump then there is no warranty as Volvo Penta’s belief is that

you need to go with complete new pump.

My guess, and we have a description of this issue in our blog and in our newsletter, is the problem that some of these

fuel pump experience is a combination of the ethanol in the gas (which eats away the earlier coatings inside the pumps), the application and the way the pump is cooled by the water line.

 

J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-05 16:52


Discontinued Volvo XDP Question

Hello:
As you probably know these XDP have been discontinued by Volvo  Penta.

However, I have two almost brand new drives.  These were on a new boat that the customer made enough fuss with his boat builder that they agreed to replace them with the new Ocean series replacement program after about a week or so of actual use.    They look brand new and we have pressure tested them and examined them.

This drive would come with a six month warranty from us (Volvo Penta no longer warranties these drives).

On our web site there is a discussion of the new program and some of the problems that some people have had with the XDP.

If you haven't had any trouble with these (many haven't) then it makes sense to just replace it.

Thank you and please don't hesitate to contact us if you need any more information or would like to place an
order.

J.D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-05 16:54


Volvo D4-300, D4-300D-B Question

Dears,

I need a few parts for my Volvo D4 300. I was wondering if you could be so kind to provide the full schematics for my engines. Would you have it in PDF format? The matter is that my mechanics do not speak English so I´ll have to use the prints to select the parts together with them.

Thanks in advance

Best regards

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Hello Sir:

All of the D4-300 schematics are on our website (marinepartsexpress.com).  Here is a link that will get you to overall section http://www.marinepartsexpress.com/vp_sch_fs.html

But remember that you will need to know which D4-300 you have (such as D4-300D-B).

I can supply shop manuals for these engines in Spanish if you want them, but I can’t supply parts books in anything other than English.  Most people use the on-line schematics for parts identification, but if you want to purchase actual parts books they are available in about three weeks (they are printed on demand) and cost about $75 each.

If you would rather just give me a list of the parts (along with the serial number of the engine), I could find the part numbers for you and give you a quote.

J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-05 16:58


DP-S Sleeve between Upper/Lower Drive Question

Hello:
 
I will send you another schematic showing the sleeve between the upper and the lower drive, but
you should take a hold of the UV joint (at the top of the drive and the joint that is flopping down
in the attached picture) and turn it.
 
If the drive is in gear the lower prop shaft should turn.  You can shift it manually and see if the
shaft turns.
 
If the prop shaft doesn't turn all no matter which way you have the shift set when you turn the
upper UV joint (and the UV joint turns freely with no grinding noise), then it is possible that the
little sleeve between the upper and the lower has broken.  The sleeve is designed to break if
there is too much strain on the prop shaft.  Sometimes the sleeve won't break until days after
the actual strike (or a rope around the prop for example). 
 
You should also drain a little fluid into a clear jar to see if there is any metal in the fluid.  Sometimes
you can see the metal while other times if you put a little oil between your fingers you can feel it.
Also smell the fluid and see if smells burnt.
 
Just an aside, when you fill these drives, you MUST fill them from the bottom and not from the top.  If
you fill it from the top you are likely to get air pockets in the drive which will cause nasty issues.
 
Hope this helps.
 
J.D.
 

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Last update: 2015-03-05 17:22


Swap King Cobra over to VP SX Drive Question

Hello:

Here are all the parts to swap your King Cobra over to a Volvo Penta SX drive.

You may have to do a little work on the transom as the VPA transom shield is a little different than the King Cobra.

If this was just a cobra drive you would not have to replace the whole transom shield, but since it is you will have to replace the whole Transom shield.

You will need a new shift cable (around $75) as well.

I quoted you a prop, but we would need to double check that I got you the correct pitch.

If you wanted to go with a dual prop drive everything would be the same except you would need the DPS drive which is another $1,500 and a set of dual props for $750.

Look this over and please feel free to give me a call and we can discuss.

Thank you.

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-05 17:29


Volvo Penta Part Number Suffix Question

Dear Sir,
 
These are also for Volvo Penta. I have a major request for clarification. All my part numbers have a digit after a (Dash - ) but all your quotes are without the dash suffix. Pl explain why,
 
For eg:
My part numbers will be:
873195-2
873197-8
873199-4
 
But when I get your offer it will be:
873195
873197
873199
 
Pl explain why??, hope we are not going wrong,
 
Then are the items same,
 
Pl explain.
 
Kind Regards
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Hello Sir:
 
The suffix numbers (like "-2" in 873195-2) are no longer used by Volvo Penta and haven't
been used for almost ten years.  These "-numbers" used to designate which vendor
that Volvo Penta had contracted to build the part.  Now Volvo Penta changes the part
number when they change either the vendor or redesign the part number.
 
So part number 873195-2 has been changed to 873195.  Exactly the same part.
The dash-numbers are never used anymore, but if you have them, include them
for me as if the part number is a very old number or an unusual rare part number,
the dash-numbers can sometime help me find it.
 
J.D.
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Last update: 2015-03-05 17:40


HS1A Gear Kit Question

Hello Sir:
 
Attached is a bulletin discussing how the disk kit has been changed and the new installation
method.
 
We have rebuilt a number of these HS1A gears with this kit and it works well.
 

J. D. Neeson

President

 

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Last update: 2015-03-05 17:43


Volvo 3807943 Plastic Prop Blades NLA Question

Hello:
I am sorry, but the plastic props 3807943 are no longer available. I have not been able to find anyone who has these. However, I can supply a complete prop (hub and blades).
Please let us know what you would like to do.
J. D. Neeson

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Hi JD,

I have a question on the quote.  I understand the kit, but what is the replacement part number with quantity of 4 at $24 each?

Thanks,

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Hello:
 
The quantity of four are the old plastic prop blades that don't exist anymore.  This number was the last number before they went obsolete.
 
Now you have to purchase the whole prop.  If you do want to go this way, it might make sense for you to tell me what props you have and what you need so I can confirm that we have quoted you the right entire prop.
 
Unless you love these plastic blades I would be tempted to switch over to an aluminum or  SS set.  As you probably know the XDP drives are going the way of all flesh and are no longer being manufactured.
 
Attached is a memo that will be going out today to XDP owners about Volvo Penta's new program.
Thank you,
JD

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Last update: 2015-03-05 18:05


Volvo 839330 and 839331 Expired Question

Hello Sir:

We received your order for the parts 839330 and 839331. Both parts are expired, but I do have a source for them.

Attached is a quote showing the new prices for these expired parts. The price does increase (my source knows how rare these are).

I also included a good used one of the housing that we have out back.

Please review and let me know what you would like to do.

I am sorry I can't find these at a more reasonable price, but they have been discontinued for 18 years!

J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-05 18:09


MD2030B Piston Kit Question

Hello,

I have a customer with a MD2030B who purchased a Standard Piston kit part #876694. Can we confirm that the new piston is supposed to have the flat surface because it is clearly different from the old piston. Please see attached pic.

Thanks,

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Hello,

the answer from Volvo's engineering department is that yes, the piston is correct.

Thanks,

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Last update: 2015-03-05 18:14


Volvo 945444 Flange Bolt Question

Hello Sir:
 
Thank you for getting back to us.
 
The 945444 flange bolt for the exhaust is an error in the Volvo Penta system.  When you actually get the 945444 bolt it is a little short screw (see attached picture of bolt and attached picture of the schematic that actually includes this bolt in a fresh water kit item #13 ) and is not a flange bolt.  So we changed it in our system so that number changes to a flange bolt. 
 
But the new number is the same price, more or less.
 
I have sent this to Volvo Penta in the past, but they really don't have a process for dealing with these discoveries.
 
J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-05 18:16


Volvo D3-200 PCU and Velvet Drive Transmission Questions

Hello Sir:

Attached is a quote for the PCU that probably goes with your D3-200. I say probably, because without the serial number of the engine, I can't be sure which PCU you have.

There are a number of D3-200 configurations and each have a PCU that looks alike, but is programmed at the factory a little differently.

If you give me the serial number of the engine, I will confirm that I guessed correct and send you an updated quote.

The SN 09000210966 is the serial number of the PCU given to it by the manufacturer while the PN S101308/RIF is the part number given by the manufacturer.  Volvo Penta takes this part and burns in the program depending upon which engine is needed.

Thank you and please don't hesitate to contact us if you need any more information or would like to place an
order.

 

J.D. Neeson
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Thanks. I will look for something local here. I need some other parts for our transmission. Do you sell velvet drive parts? We have a Borg Warner 71C  I think 2.1:1 about 1985 model. The rear seal is leaking, so we need a new seal, new hex nut and any other recommended parts to fix.
Regards,

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Hello:
We do stock BW parts.  You will have to check the ratio though. The 2.1 BW drive is the drive that reverses the input direction so what ever direction the input is the output is reversed.  We stock parts for this, but be careful as all the other drives have pretty much interchangeable parts, the 2.1 does have some special parts.

It is on our web site, but just for fun I will send you the shop manual for the BW gears which also has the part numbers in it.
We do rebuild these if it turns out to be more involved than you want to do.

J.D.

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Hi, JD
Did some checking and found some notes in the boat's manuals. It is a 71C with a 2.1:1 ratio and uses a left hand prop because it is reversed. I can't say exactly when it was built, but my best guess would be between 1978 and 1988. What is the cutoff date for the "Early Production" models?
Thanks for all your help,

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Hello:
My guess is that you really have a AS14-71C which is the early version of the 71C which is the earlier version of the 72C.  The 2.1 gear is the only one that you can't just swap around the pump if the input is in the opposite direction (I.E. a counter rotating engine).  So there are two 2.1 gears, one for standard input engines and one for counter-rotating engines.  We have parts for both of these and have rebuilt ones for
all of these versions. If when you say the prop is reversed you mean that the input and the output are opposite
(i.e. the gear changes the direction of the prop) then you have a 1.91:1 Borg Warner.  The 1.91:1 gear is the only BW that swaps the input direction.  

Often in two engine boats you have the props going opposite directions so you have a 2.1 gear and a 1.91 for the port engine to swap direction.  In the early days sometimes you had a counter rotation engine (PCM used to offer these engines).  In this case they often had the 2.1 and the 2.1R (counter rotating input).

Hope this helps.

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-05 18:25


Volvo 3862228 RPL 3847644 and Bulletin Questions

Hello:
I recently purchased Volvo Penta p/n 3862228 (fuel filter) not realizing there was a Volvo Penta Bulletin calling for another part # for a higher capacity filter for use with ethanol fuels. Can I return the original and re-order the new filter (p/n 3847644)? If so, is there a return charge, or shipping fee?
Thanks,

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Hello:
I think you would find the 3862228 would probably be sufficient, but we are happy to swap
it out for the new one.  Just send the 3862228 back to Marine Parts Express, 65 Dodge
Road, Edgecomb, ME 04556 and we will send you the new one.  The 3847644 is $4.32
more expensive and we would charge you for the shipping down to you.
 
I have attached the actual bulletin which discusses the larger filter.  Volvo Penta
recommends that the new filter should be used in applications where it will fit. 
 
Personally (and this is definitely not Volvo Penta speaking), I have some doubts that
a larger filter will make any difference in respect to the Ethanol issue.  Volvo Penta has
had a large number of Carter produced fuel pumps failing. 
 
From what I understand Carter blames the Volvo Penta application while Volvo Penta blames
the pumps themselves.  We have certainly sold (and warranteed) a fair number of these
pumps, but I can't see there is a direct causal relationship between the pumps that
fail and the fuel that went through them. 
 
We have had a significant number of pumps fail that customers swear had only used
non-ethanol treated gas (many marinas offer non-ethanol gas at a premium), while at the
same time we have had customers who have never had any problems using gasoline
with ethanol.
 
I think the characteristic screaming failing pump (sometimes the engine just runs oddly)
may be a complicated combination of the fuel pump's manufacturing, the Volvo Penta use
of the pump, the age of fueling dock pumps, the amount of time the gas sits in the fueling
dock tank, the number of hours put on the boat, the ambient air temperature, the average
dew point and the way the boat is actually used.
 
All I can say is that it seems like pumps fail more on the 5.7L engines and then secondly on
the 8.1L engines than they do on the 4.3L engines.  But this may be more a function of the
number of engines out there than any real insight to what causes the premature failures.
 
I have also attached the Volvo Penta bulletin talking about Volvo Penta's new Ethanol Fuel
Treatment.  I think it makes good sense to throw this in with your gas each time you fuel up
and while we have had good luck with this Volvo Penta product, I suspect that any fuel
treatment that does not contain alcohol would probably also work.  
 
Just as an aside, if your Volvo Penta engine is still under warranty, I would recommend that
you use original Volvo Penta fluids and parts.  Volvo Penta is very reasonable about their
warranties, but if there are any issues and it is determined that aftermarket parts and fluids
were used, it muddies the water and adds unnecessary complexity to what is usually a
fair and straightforward warranty process.
  

J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-05 18:31


MD2030 Raw Water Pump Question

Hello Sir:

Attached is a quote for the R/W pump for your MD2030.

The old number (3580945) has been superceeded to the new more expensive version in the quote.

These MD2030 engines are Perkin's blocks that Volvo Penta used and they are no longer being produced by Perkins so Volvo Penta has gone to the new D1-20, D1-30 and D2-40 engines (which incidentally also start life out as a Perkins engines).

The new pumps came into being from the MD2030B and forward and are what came with the B engines.

The earlier number was originally on the A type engines, but the 3580945s are no longer made as the new number fits the As as well as the B, C and D versions.

So I am afraid that unless you can find someone who has one of these older pumps on their shelves you will have to go with the new pump.

We ship worldwide and have this pump available.

J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-05 19:06


TAMD60C Coupler Options Question

Hello:

The original TAMD60C normally had a Volvo Penta coupler 848602 with a MG502.  These are no longer manufactured by Volvo Penta, but I do have two of them in stock.

While the TAMD60C did not typically use a ZF220A, the TAMD63P (370 HP) did use a ZF220A.  The coupler that Volvo Penta used with the TAMD63P with a ZF220A was the 3826243.  But this coupler is a firmer coupler as the TAMD63P has more horsepower.  I can't tell  you how much firmer and it might not make a difference. Both the TAMD60C and the TAMD63P have the same #2 housing and flywheel bolt patterns.  I have two of these in stock.

The third alternative is an aftermarket coupler made by Lipe.  We have had good luck with these and they are fairly firm (probably closer to the 3826243 than the 848602).  And I have plenty of these in stock.

The fourth option is to go with a PX8756 which is the Twin Disc version.  I don't have these, but can get them within a week. This one is closer to the original coupler 848602 in firmness and is for the lower horsepower (max 250-300 hp).  The cost for these is $385.

 

Thank you and please don't hesitate to contact us if you need any more information or would like to place an order.


J.D. Neeson
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Last update: 2015-03-05 19:23


Volvo Engine Fresh Water Flush Kit Question

Volvo Penta 1989 5.7 L engine with fuel injection...it uses 2 belts on front of engine 

06484 - I know there is an engine fresh water flush kit for this engine as I seen many blogs showing very "volvo-penta type" instructions for the person asking how to flush their engine in and out of the water. My motor did not have such. The schematic looks very simple with a tee inserted into the water intake and a capped off hose with an adapter for connecting fresh water. Can you note the part to add this and cost for the kit so I can look at it on your website. I would need 2 of such.
Thank you.

P.S. I do not want the QL NEUTRA-SALT™ ENGINE FLUSHING KIT but the simple freshwater flush kit.

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Hello Sir:
Below is the DIY kit that we have on our web site. Is this what you mean?
 
J. D. Neeson

 

Gas Engine Garden Hose Flush Kit Project

As featured in our blog "Parting Thoughts"

back to Marine Parts Express home

Estimated time, start to finish:
1 hour
What you get:
Flush kit for gas engines, allows you to run your engine while connected to a 3/4" garden hose. Hose connects to the blue cap in the picture. This is a standard feature on recent Volvo Penta gas engines.
Cost of parts:
$24.15
Parts required(please note there are different parts depending on your engine hose diameter)

While Volvo Penta does not sell this as a kit, we have determined that these are the parts you will need: 3862656 (Cap), 3862082 (Retainer), 3862079 (Gasket), 3807440 (Flushing connection), 978174 (hose clamps, you need two), 982645 (more hose clamps, also quantity two), 3857823 (hose) clamp (3862891) screw (formerly 3853557 but now expired as of 6/1/2011--you will need to supply your own screw #7 in the diagram) and 3862699 (T-pipe for 1" pipe). Just to be clear: don't try to order the expired screw online, the shopping cart will allow you to do it, but then our parts department will call you to tell you it is no longer available.

If you have a 1-1/4 in. engine pipe: then you need a different T-pipe, 3589415 and 2 larger clamps: 3853786.

  

 

 

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Last update: 2015-03-05 19:30


Volvo 31-44 Installation Instructions Question

Hello:
 
Here are the installation instructions.
 
J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-05 19:34


AQ125/280 Return Parts Question

Hi, First off, I hope you guys are doing okay after the heavy snow and winds. Spring will come along one of these days and winter weather will be in the past. Got a question. I ordered up a bunch of O-rings, seals and a PDS bearing for my older AQ 125/280 Volvo Penta. When I was ordering the bearing (#3851019 on the box)I asked if it was a "sealed bearing". The guy I talked with said yes. Turns out it's not (good bearing but not "sealed"), so I had to order another bearing. Can I return the one I was sent along with the sealing ring that goes forward of it (#946242)? All unopened and just as you sent them to me. All the rest of the parts look good. Thanks

 

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Hello:

 

That is fine.  Send it on back to us (Marine Parts Express, 65 Dodge Road, Edgecomb, ME 04556)

 

Just out of curiousity, what part number did you end up purchasing?

 

J.d.

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Hi J.D.,

 

Thanks. I'll get them in the mail today. I bought the same brand of bearing SKF (for the intermediate shaft--power shaft coming off the back of the motor).

The part number is 6206-2RS1 (Same bearing but totally sealed). It's a good upgrade for these older Volvo Pentas.

First, you don't have to lube them.

Second, if the U-Joint bellows develops a leak (like mine did when we were 20 miles out from the dock), the sealed bearing buys more time before saltwater can leak past it. It could make the difference between getting back after a long trip or having an "unsealed" bearing start breaking down. If that drive bearing goes, then things get dangerous real fast.

Thanks again for the great customer service. I'll be buying from you guys in the future as parts are needed.

 

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Last update: 2015-03-06 20:20


Volvo Steering Pump 855860 Now 855872 Question

Hello:

 

The new steering pump 855872 is a direct replacement for power steering pump 855860. However, 855860 had a pulley that was held on by 4 bolts, but the new power steering pump has a pressure fitted pulley that goes over the shaft. So the question is what is the new pulley for the new steering pump? 

 

Thank you 

 

J.d.

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On that pump shaft is a hub and on that hub is a pulley, the pulley is fixed on the hub with 4 bolts , the hub of the old pump needs to be transferred to the new pump because it is no longer available.

Thank you,

FRANK

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Last update: 2015-03-10 13:56


MD6A Swap to MD6B Question

Hello:

One option is to swap the MD6A return line (which is what you have that uses the nipple) over to a MD6B return line that doesn't use the nipple. It is expensive though.

Please let me know what you would like to do.

J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-10 13:58


Process for Prop Calculations Question

Hello:
 
Attached is an example of the process for doing the prop calculations.
 
So if you wanted to have your boats top speed be 20 knots, then with a 1.5:1 ratio, you would need a 3 bladed 19x16 prop.
 
So at idle (say it is 600 RPM) your prop would be turning 400 RPM.
 
 
Or if you decide you want to go up to 30 knots at top speed the calculations show you would need a 17x22 size prop.
 
On our web page there is a nice write up under "The Express" our newsletter on the relationship between weight, HP, RPM, and prop size.
 
J.D.
 

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Last update: 2015-03-10 14:21


Volvo Penta AD41D Diesel Injector Question

Volvo Penta AD41D diesel

Need to know the difference between your two parts listed as injectors for the Volvo Penta AD41D diesel: 861103 and 3803238 which run for difference prices.

Thanks in advance,
L.

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Hello Sir:
 
These are identical injectors and both come with a one year warranty.
 
The 861103 is a brand new injector.
 
The 3803238 is called an "exchange injector".  This means that it could be a remanufactured injector (remanufactured by Volvo Penta) and that there is a refundable $90 core charge. 
 
The idea was that Volvo Penta would begin to rebuild these injectors. As far as we can see they have never done so as all the "exchange injectors" we have received seem to be brand new.  However Volvo PEnta is still collecting the cores so if you go with the 3803238 you will be charged for the injector and additional $90 core charge. 
 
When we get the old injector back you will be refunded the $90.
 
J.D.
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Last update: 2015-03-10 14:24


Volvo Penta KAD42P-A Head Bolt Reuse Question

Volvo Penta KAD42P-A

Would like know how many times you can reuse the headbolts

Thank you, 

C.

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Hello:
 
By the manual you are not supposed to use the headbolts more than once.  You have to stretch them a certain amount of degrees at the end of the tighting sequence.
 
So you should purchase new head bolts.  However, I have seen some people use them a second time.  It is not recommended, but certainly not more than twice.
 
The new bolts (27 of them) are $8.03 each (part number 838778).
 
Hope this helps.
 
J.D.
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Last update: 2015-03-10 14:28


Volvo Part 854934 Now 21389074 Question

Hello Sir:
 
Attached is a diagram of the upper unit of the sail drive.  Ref. 70 is the big rubber seal that is squeezed between the upper and lower units that seals the sail drive to the hull from the inside.
 
The number for this kit, on the diagram, is 854934 which includes the seal and some other gaskets.  Actually Volvo Penta superceedes this number to 21389074 which is the new kit number.
 
Most times we replace both, but the 21389074 is expensive (around $432.).
 
 
J.D.
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Last update: 2015-03-10 14:35


Mounting Kit Question

Hello Sir:
 
The mounting kit in this diagram is the rubber gasket that goes on the outside of the boat against the hull.  It has the hole that goes around the lower unit and then is fastened to the hull.
 
Most times we replace both gasket kits if we are removing the entire sail drive.
 
Please contact me if you have any questions.
 

J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-10 14:37


Volvo Penta 3.0 1999 Riser Question

Hello Sir:
 
Attached is a Volvo Penta schematic showing that your 3.0 1999 engine uses a riser 3857798, 
 
The attachment showing 3857798 shows the Volvo Penta system page showing that 3857798 has been superceeded to a 3863071.  This is the riser that Volvo Penta believes you should be using.
 
The attachment labeled VPA expired 3862603 shows the Volvo Pents system showing that the 3862603 number has been replaced by a kit.  The kit part number was 3588684.
 
Part number 3588684 has been superseded by 3857798 which in turn has been superseded to 3863071.  Please see the file supercesshistory 3858684 to see this.
 
So everything eventually supersedes to 3863071 (which comes with a bushing and a plug by the way).
 
I show that the 3862603 part number was originally on a 1993-1994 era Volvo Penta engine.  The last time we sold one of these was in 8/16/2010.  If I had the part in our stock I would be happy to sell it to you for the $78.62.
 
I have looked around everywhere for anybody who has one of these parts in their shelves I would get it for you.  If you can find anyone out there in the world that has this part, please let me know as I would like to purchase some for our stock.
 
I also found that BARR makes an aftermarket version of the original number 20-3862603, but again I couldn't find anyone who has one.
 
I am sorry I can't fine the 3862603.  But please remember that Volvo Penta says that this is not the correct riser for your engine.
 
If you would like to discuss this further please feel free to contact me directly.
 

J. D. Neeson

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Last update: 2015-03-10 14:44


Volvo 165 (1000 HP), ZF or Twin Disc Gear similar to ZF 550A Question

Howdy JD,
I called you regarding a freewheeling screw (ZF550A) while the other engine/screw is rotating approx. 4.5 knots for about an hour. I called the ZF # you gave me and talked to a service technician he said It most likely did not cause any damage in an hour, after 8 hours it might be a different story.
Thanks for your help
With Best Regards,
J.
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Hello J:
Attached is what I found in a Volvo manual for a big Volvo Penta 165 (1000 HP) type engine.  This engine came with either a ZF or a Twin Disc gear similar to the size of the ZF 550A. 

I think it shows, as we all expected, that you did not do any harm to your gear by letting it turn freely for an hour.  I called ZF 
down in Florida this morning and Don (who is our rep guy) thought so to.  He did put me on hold and called their tech department and they confirmed it as well.
 
On the other hand, if you do it longer, it might damage the clutch packs.  You have three oil systems in the gear.  You have the system that pushes the clutches together (or helps the spings pull them apart) which runs at about 220 psi.  Then you have a running oil system that lubricates the bearings and such that runs as about 70 psi when the gear is turning.  Then you have the lube oil system that lubes the gears and stuff which runs about 3 psi.  So when you are freewheeling you are covering the lube system as the gears pull up the oil.
 
What this means is that Dave does not owe me a meal nor do I owe him one - damnit.
 
Just for fun, I included the ZF550 shop manual (above) so you can take a peek and see if the trouble shooting bit in the shop manual helps you at all.
 
Almost always, when these bigger gears fail, it is because of overheating - either the cooling water failed or the cooler failed or an oil line blew.
 
Thank you and please don't hesitate to contact us if you need any more information or would like to place an order.
 
J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-10 15:39


Volvo Penta sterndrive alignment tool is it the same one used on Mercruiser? thanks

Hello:

The alignment tools are not exactly the same. Same principle and they look alike, but the ends (where it goes into the
coupler) is just a little different.

Some people use the Merc. on the Volvo Penta drives, but not many go the other way.

J.D.

Author: JD Neeson
Last update: 2016-02-17 14:09


Volvo Penta » Transmission

Have 1989 Riviera with twin Volvo penta motors, starboard gearbox has lost forward gear, would you have parts for repairs or do you have an exchange gearbox?

I believe you have MS4A gear boxes. 
 
Volvo Penta doesn't manufacture these any more and hasn't for years, but most of the parts are still available.  They are a bit tricky to rebuild however.
 
What Volvo Penta did was replace the MS4 gears with MS5 gears and then replaced them with HS1A gears.
 
Other people have replaced these gears with ZF63A gears, but this does require a bit of adjustment on the engine beds and angles and such.
 
If you supply me with the list of parts I can give you a quote for these parts.  Incidentally MS4A schematics are on our web site in the schematic section.
 
Or you could send us the gear and we would examine it and give you an estimate for rebuild.  Most of the parts are available, but if the input gear has been chewed up, it may not be worth rebuilding.
 
Volvo Penta still produces the HS1A gears to order.
 
The ZF63A are also available new, but you have to make sure that you can get them to fit without
to many issues.
 
Hope this helps and please feel free to contact me if you need any more information.
 
J. D. Neeson
President

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Last update: 2015-01-22 17:49


I recently purchased a set of Volvo's with no Transmissions. They have the Ring Gear, but I need everything - back, Bell Housing etc. Any information you could give me would help a lot as far as availability and costs. Thank you.

Hello:
 
We can help you with this, but I would need a bit more information.
 
The AQD 40s came with a few different transmissions.  The early ones came
with a Borg Warner Gear, then Volvo Penta supplied them with their MS3, MS4 or,
on some of the later engines, MS5 gears.
 
Then some people had ZF63 gears put on them.  And then some people swapped
out the Volvo MS series transmission with the Volvo HS1A transmissions.
 
Most of these are still available, but the ZF63A gears is the least expensive (around
$3,000 each).  It might take a little moving of the engines though.
 
Please feel free to contact me and we can discuss your options.
 
By the way the 40s are good solid engine.  You do need to make sure they
keep cool however as their heads sometime crack quickly if they get hot.
 
J.D.

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Last update: 2015-01-22 17:49


I have a ZF45A transmission on a yanmar 170hp 4lh-dte. I would like to put a trolling valve on it because it idles too fast. It's very hard to handle at the slip. Would the trolling valve permit me to shift gears at the dock at a slower speed? Thank you.

It sounds like your prop is probably too aggressive so you can't go slowly at low RPMs.

If you put on a smaller prop you may lose speed on the upper RPMs.

 

They do make a trolling valve for the ZF45A for around $1,800.

However some people think that the gear might be a bit too small to use a trolling valve.  But ZF Marine does sell one for it.

 

Sometimes it makes more sense to purchase a whole new gear with a trolling valve (like a ZF63A) as adding a trolling valve on to a gear purchase is only about $400.

 

J.D.

Author: Brian Sutter
Last update: 2016-08-11 14:25


Shipping

Which shipping method should I choose?

INFO REGARDING SHIPPING

USPS, FEDEX, OR UPS

 

USPS- OFTEN THE LEAST EXPENSIVE WAY TO SHIP

 

If you choose to use USPS for your shipping, you should be aware of the tracking/claim process. Many times USPS packages travel to their destination with no problems or issue, but sometimes, the packages lose their way.

Firstly, USPS tracking capacity will tell you when the package enters and exits their system, but will not tell you anything more. You will not be privy to where the package is in route or an accurate estimated time of delivery.

 Once the package is in route, some vague information is given. If your package is missing for 23 business days of the last scan, then you can make a claim. Note that I said "last scan", once the package is scanned again, the 23 business days start over.

 If the package has been missing for 23 business days, then the shipper may start a trace. Most countries have a 30 day, but some countries have a 90 day grace period to look for the missing package.

 Lastly, after all this, if your package is still lost, the shipper may make a claim. USPS has a limit of insurance to which they will pay a claim. Once again, different countries will have different claim limits. In general, if your package is over $500 in value, check your countries claim restrictions.

 One last note regarding USPS, size and weight limits are set by the country and package must meet each countries requirements.

 

FEDEX AND UPS

 

Both FedEx and UPS have a good tracking system where you can see where your package is and when it should arrive to your location.

 We tend to have less package damage with FedEx, but I have spoken with other shippers who claim less damage with UPS. The claim process for lost and damaged packages is only 10 business days for both FedEx and UPS. 

 

 

-Alice Gray, Shipping Manager

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Last update: 2015-01-22 16:57


Paint MUST Ship by Ground Question

Hello Sir:
We can not overnight or 2nd day paint. Due to federal regulations paint cannot go by airplane so it has to go by ground.   This regulation has been around for about ten years or so ever since that plane went down in the Florida everglades and it was determined that empty (or partially empty) paint containers were the cause.
I am here today, Sunday and will be here Monday if you want to contact me..
J.D.
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Last update: 2015-03-05 18:46


Shipping Return Label Question

When a return label has been authorized to be processed, a notice is sent to the shipping department.  If the notice has no additional information, the label will be made using UPS.  It will be sent electronically through your email address directly from UPS.  It will include a label and directions.  This label could be made at any time of day but will not be processed through UPS until closing time, between 5 & 6pm eastern standard time.
 

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Last update: 2015-03-10 16:35


Volvo Penta » Warranty

What is the parts warranty of cylinder head engine tamd-165a?

If you buy a head from a Volvo Penta dealer it comes with a one year parts warranty.
However this warranty is for manufacturing defects only so if you overheat the head
and warp it, the damage from misuse is not covered.
 
- J.D. Neeson, President

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Last update: 2015-01-22 17:01


Volvo Penta » IPS

What comes in the Volvo Penta IPS 450 Package?

The IPS450 Package comes with engine and the IPS system and all the pieces
and parts.  There only come in pairs.
 
However, you can't just put this in a boat.  The boat has to be designed to have
the IPS system.
 
J. D. Neeson
Marine Parts Express
Toll Free: (877) 621-2628
International: (207) 882-6165
Fax (207) 882-9865

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Last update: 2015-01-22 17:45


Volvo Penta » Turbocharger

Do you have a pipe elbow for 3K K26 turbocharger?

Hello:
 
We probably can do this for you, but can you give me the model number and/or serial number of
the engine.
 
While the K26 turbocharger is made by B/W, the elbows are usually supplied by the engine manufacturer.
Some times they are made by B/W, but more often not.  So Cummins uses the K26 on a lot of their
engines, the exhaust elbow is made by a company in Florida for Cummins.
 
J.D.
 

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Last update: 2015-01-22 17:52


Volvo Penta » Overhaul Kit

What does a basic rebuild kit consist of?

Hello:

 
Volvo Penta used to offer a basic overhaul kit and a complete kit, but the complete kit have been discontinued and
the basic kit will be discontinued soon..
 
However you can still get the parts that were in the kits.
 
The basic overhaul kit includes 6 cylinder liner kits (liner, piston, rings, seals etc), all the bearings and all the gaskets and
seals for the engine.
 
The complete kit used to include a turbo, water pumps (both circ. and R/W), injectors and a head rebuild kit.  Again you
can get these parts, but no longer as part of a kit.
 
What we tend to do when rebuilding is to get the Basic kit and the head rebuild kit and pick and choose whatever else
we need.
 
J.D.

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Last update: 2015-01-22 22:32


Mercruiser » Propeller

I have a 2007 Rinker Express cruiser with a 20 pitch dual prop. Would I benefit going to a 22 or 24 pitch dual prop?

Hello:

 
That is tough to answer as it depends upon the boat, the horsepower, the ratio of the drive.  We have on our blog and in our newsletter
(marinepartsexpress.com) a nice write up on prop sizing that might be useful.
 
Typically every inch you go up in prop pitch, you drop the RPMs by about 250 RPMs or so.  Now if you are under propped now (you can get
up to wide open throttle very easily and/or  bump against the delimiter that keeps the engine from overreving) then you can go with
a bigger prop.  If on the other hand, you can’t up to the WOT (wide open throttle) RPMs then you could be over propped.
 
The key aspect to remember is that the prop size does effect the speed of the boat, but the bigger the prop (or the smaller the prop) doesn’t
necessairy mean the boat will go faster (or slower).  It is all a balance of the variables.
 
If you send me the length, width and weight of the boat along with the ratio of the drive, I can put the data in my program and see what the program
recommends for prop size.
 
 
J. D. Neeson
Marine Parts Express
Toll Free: (877) 621-2628
International: (207) 882-6165
Fax (207) 882-9865
 
 

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Last update: 2015-01-22 22:40


Calculating Prop Size Question

Hello:

Attached is a quote for a new ZF15MIV 2.955:1 ratio (the 2.718 ratio is the same price).

The 4.108 engine is a 51 HP at 4000 RPM engine.  Even though you are not going to run your
engine wide open when you calculate prop size you use the WOT as the relationship between
the engine, boat shape, weight and torque is consistent  along  the whole RPM curve.

So for your boat 36 foot (water line length 32), 14,000 pounds, 12.5 wide the calculations show

2.995:1 ratio  shows an 18"x14" prop and a 8.5 knot max speed
2.718:1 ratio shows an 18"x12" prop and a 8.5 knot max speed.

In any case your 13.5" prop with a 14" prop is certainly not the correct prop for you boat I believe.

The hull speed of your boat (using the JD rule of thumb calculations) is about 8.48 knots give or take
so you are unlikely to really push it up to 8.5.  Usually I believe the most you can expect out of an 
engine is about 80% of the calculated numbers so I suspect you will find your max prop driven speed
to be around 6.8 knots give or take.

So with 6.8 knots in mind (this is running the engine at about 80% RPM as well at 3,200 RPM) you should
probably have a prop in the 16"x11" or maybe 17"x12" range.

Another one of my rule of thumbs is that with boats that are not going to get up on plane (like sailboats) 
you should get the largest diameter you can spin with the lowest pitch.

There is a fuller discussion of prop sizing on our web page under both the blog and "The Express" sections.

Hope this helps.

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-03 15:36


QL Line of Props Question

Hello:

You have the QL line of props (a hub and prop 41102353 and 41102310).  These are no longer supported as QL has gone out of business and Volvo Penta no longer supports the QL line.  For awhile Volvo Penta owned, or controlled, the QL line.

Not to worry however, as I can get you the same type of set up from Mercruiser.  They offer a hub and a prop for the Evenrude line.

If you can tell me the diameter and the pitch of your existing prop - estimates are fine - and the horse power of the Evinrude along with an approximate year, I can get you a set up.

As good, if not better than the QL line and about the same price.

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-10 15:50


ZF

ZF 63A Gear Question

Hello:
Officially at pleasure duty rating, the ZF 63A has a maximum 363hp at 3800 RPM. The gear itself has a maximum RPM of 5,500.
ZF is pretty conservative about their ratings, but I don't think the gear would last long at 550HP and 6000 RPM.  I think ZF is about 20% lower than the actual rating of the gear, but ZF would not admit this and it would void warranty.
If you went with a ZF85A gear it would be able to handle the horsepower and the torque, but the maximum RPM is 4500 RPM.
I think the 6000 RPM is going to be an issue.  Most gears are not designed for this type of speed.  Twin Disc gears are in the 5000 RPM range.  Borg Warner gears are in the 4500 RPM and they couldn't come close to handling the HP or the torque.
The trouble is that they can't handle the cooling at high RPM.  The pump can only work over a relatively small range. 
I know of no way to rebuild this gear to handle the extra load.  But just for fun I will send your E-mail and my response to our local transmission god and he might have an idea for us.
J.D.

Author:
Last update: 2015-03-10 15:25


ZF85 IV 2.0 Gear Question

Hello:

Here is a quote for the ZF85 IV 2.0 gear. I assumed a mechanical shift (or do you need hydraulic) and a SAE #3 housing (if you tell me your engine I can confirm).

Still have not got an availability for this as of now.

J.D.

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6 cylinders in line
4 times
Power: 330 HP (243 KW)
 
Could you confirm to me if this ZF 85 IV can replace our old ZF HSW800? And what more it needs to add to work well with are engine. Please let me know and than I will send to you the information to make the invoice.
 
Sincerely,
 
A.
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Last update: 2015-03-10 15:38


Volvo 165 (1000 HP), ZF or Twin Disc Gear similar to ZF 550A Question

Howdy JD,
I called you regarding a freewheeling screw (ZF550A) while the other engine/screw is rotating approx. 4.5 knots for about an hour. I called the ZF # you gave me and talked to a service technician he said It most likely did not cause any damage in an hour, after 8 hours it might be a different story.
Thanks for your help
With Best Regards,
J.
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Hello J:
Attached is what I found in a Volvo manual for a big Volvo Penta 165 (1000 HP) type engine.  This engine came with either a ZF or a Twin Disc gear similar to the size of the ZF 550A. 

I think it shows, as we all expected, that you did not do any harm to your gear by letting it turn freely for an hour.  I called ZF 
down in Florida this morning and Don (who is our rep guy) thought so to.  He did put me on hold and called their tech department and they confirmed it as well.
 
On the other hand, if you do it longer, it might damage the clutch packs.  You have three oil systems in the gear.  You have the system that pushes the clutches together (or helps the spings pull them apart) which runs at about 220 psi.  Then you have a running oil system that lubricates the bearings and such that runs as about 70 psi when the gear is turning.  Then you have the lube oil system that lubes the gears and stuff which runs about 3 psi.  So when you are freewheeling you are covering the lube system as the gears pull up the oil.
 
What this means is that Dave does not owe me a meal nor do I owe him one - damnit.
 
Just for fun, I included the ZF550 shop manual (above) so you can take a peek and see if the trouble shooting bit in the shop manual helps you at all.
 
Almost always, when these bigger gears fail, it is because of overheating - either the cooling water failed or the cooler failed or an oil line blew.
 
Thank you and please don't hesitate to contact us if you need any more information or would like to place an order.
 
J.D.

Author:
Last update: 2015-03-10 15:38


PCM

PCM Ford 302 Rear Seal Question

Hello:

I can't find anybody who has this rear seal for this counter rotating PCM Ford 302.

I show (and PCM confirms) that the Ford ID # was E2JE-6701A2A although I couldn't find anyone to find this one.

I contacted Fel Pro and they didn't have one either.

Incidentally, I talked with one of my mechanics and he confirms that they are different so you can't use the standard
seal as there are little ridges that sort of throw the oil back in the block and if use a standard one it will throw the oil
out instead of in.

I guess  you are going to have to call around and see if anyone has the R047127 in stock.

Sorry I could not be of more help.

J.D.

Author:
Last update: 2015-03-10 15:21


Perkins

Perkins Fuel Filter Crossover Question

Jd

The Perkins Fuel Filter he is purchasing is 130366120, but he is paying $6.95 locally, at least this is the figure he quoted. I believe the Perkins dealer brings these in from the UK, where they are probably cheaper.

I think the Oil Filter they are using is Perkins 140517050, which from my cross referencing is the same as the 22057107 used on 2001 / 2002 / 2003 / MD5 / MD6 / MD7 / MD11, but not called up on the D1 / D2 / D3 range. I do not know what they are paying, but I think around $15.
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Hello:
I am very surprised about the 130366120 being that cheap.  I wonder if he will discover that it will be more when he actually purchases it.  The $6.95 is the price I had for the filter in 2007 so maybe the price has been updated.

The 140517050 is an oil filter, but I show that is only used on industrial engines (a whole bunch of them though) so I would be uncomfortable using it on marine engines.   Might be OK, but who knows.  The 140517030 ones are used on many of the marine engines.


The trouble with these crosses is that no one guarantees they are correct.  They probably are, but if the filter has a different flow rate it can cause trouble over time.  Especially with the fuel filter as the injection pump use the fuel as lubrication as well.

Out of curiosity, I asked the Perkins guys to see if they could do any better on the fuel filters saying that I was being beat up by some people (no names and no area mentioned) who were selling them for around $7.50.  They may or may not get back to me.

J.D.

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Hello:
I canceled the 16 fuel filters. Attached is a quote showing the cross overs.  Remember these cross overs are not blessed by anybody.  I gave the Volvo, the Perkins and the Cummins (fleetguard) equivalents.

I wonder what part number your customer is purchasing as the Perkins filters equivalents are not that much less expensive.  Could you get the number of the Perkins filter so we can see what he is purchasing?

J.D.

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Author:
Last update: 2015-03-10 15:36


4.135 Perkins Question

Hello:
Attached is an odd quote for your 4.135.

I looked up the valve cover gasket for all possible 4.135 Perkins engines and found they were all the same so I don't need the serial number.

However, Perkins tells me that this gasket 145610235 is no longer available and they had no suggestions.

However, I vaguely remembered something about Mazda cars using this engine in their diesel offerings in the early eighties so just for fun I went looking for Mazda parts.

So they did use this engine and I can get the gasket through a Mazda dealer in Pennsylvania who specializes in older Mazda parts.  Mazda used to purchase the gasket through Perkins (they use the same number) and this guy has eight
of them left.

As I was curious, I went ahead and ordered this part and it should arrive in a few days.  I will take a peek at it and if it looks correct, I will send you a picture and you can decide if you want to go ahead with it.

J.D.

Author:
Last update: 2015-03-10 15:37


Borg Warner

Type of Transmission Fluid for Borg Warner Question

255 HP Mercuiser inboards (350 Chev Engines)
My Borg Warner Transmissions have Green Transmission fluid in them. I need to add some fluid. What kind of fluid is this? Where can I purchase it and What do I ask for? Can it be mixed with Dextron RED ATF Fluid and is it advise able or not?

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Hello:

I don’t know what the green transmission, but typically for applications where the maximum RPMs are below 3000 you can use SAE 30 weight. But as most people go above 3000 RPM you should use Dextron II or III ATF.

Almost always a mistake to mix different types of fluids.

J.D.

 

Author:
Last update: 2015-03-10 15:22


Borg Warner Gear Question

Hello:
My guys took your B/W gear down to the shop and tested it. They report that there seems to be some warping in the clutch plates that causes some drag (resistance) to the gear when shifted into reverse.  It also seems to hesitate a little when put into gear which also hints at partially burnt (or rather smoothed clutch plates).

But what is more worrisome is that the pressure is about 35 pounds off what it should be.  This could be a bad pump.

So I can only offer you $650 for the gear as I will probably have to put about $2,000 worth of parts and labor into it.  If this is OK let me know and I will re-imburse your card or send you a check.

One other thing, Dave noted that it looked like you might have taken off the top fitting from the new 2.1 that we sent you and put it on the bottom of the 1.91 gear you returned and presumably put the 1.91:1 fitting 
from the returned gear on to the bottom of 2.1.

But you need to be careful on this.  The 2.1 must have the return line go to the top of the reduction housing.  This is because the cooled oil has to go into the top to "splash" lubricate the insides and most importantly to lubricate the planetary.

On the 1.91 the return line returns to the bottom of the main case.

You can't switch these for if  you do have the return oil going to the bottom of the 2.1 instead of the top of the reduction housing you will burn out the 2.1 gear.

Incidentally, the 1.91:1 gear you returned was set up for a counter-rotating engine (the flywheel was turning clockwise).  You can change the input rotation of the 1.91:1 by recalibrating the pump (i.e. turn the pump), but
you can not change the input direction of the 2.1 gear.  The 2.1 gear that you received from us is expecting a standard rotation engine (ie the flywheel turns counter clockwise).

J.D.

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Last update: 2015-03-10 15:26


Volvo Penta » Prop

QL Line of Props Question

Hello:

You have the QL line of props (a hub and prop 41102353 and 41102310).  These are no longer supported as QL has gone out of business and Volvo Penta no longer supports the QL line.  For awhile Volvo Penta owned, or controlled, the QL line.

Not to worry however, as I can get you the same type of set up from Mercruiser.  They offer a hub and a prop for the Evenrude line.

If you can tell me the diameter and the pitch of your existing prop - estimates are fine - and the horse power of the Evinrude along with an approximate year, I can get you a set up.

As good, if not better than the QL line and about the same price.

J.D.

Author:
Last update: 2015-03-10 15:41


How can I tell if I have a DP-S drive or a DPX drive. I recently purchase a 2001 Cobalt with a Volvo Penta 5.7 GSi

I don't know the answer

Author: Bill Hostetler
Last update: 2017-09-28 19:08


Volvo Penta » Part Number

Volvo 873531 RPL 22314183 Question

Hello:
 
Volvo Penta is still having some issues on these, but they have contacted with a new
vendor for this part.  This means there is a new part number for the 873531  which
is 22314183.  It should be the exact same part, but from a different vendor
and a new part number.   However, the price has increased to $231.54 each.
This new part number is so new that it hasn't been officially entered into the
parts systems as of yet.
 
I talked with Volvo Penta today and they said the new part number should be
in their hands by February 6th (500 pieces) and then a next batch of 500 on March
6th.
 
Do you want to order a pair of these?
 

J. D. Neeson

Author:
Last update: 2015-03-10 15:47


Cummins

Cummins Injector 4326784 question

Hello:

Here is the quote for the new injectors under part number 4326784.  At the moment Cummins only shows 4 of these available.

Eventually it appears the original number 4954374 will transition into 4326784.

It would be at least six weeks leadtime for these new ones.  It could be more as they are not really fully active yet.

Just an aside, there have been reports about the Chinese Cummins partner selling outside of China.  They are not supposed to do this according to Cummins and Cummins says that many of the parts are "inferior".  I think Cummins is in a bad situation as they made partnership deal with the Chinese and now it appears that they are competing
against Cummins worldwide.  I haven't seen any of these parts, but I have heard some horror stories.

Thank you.

J.d.

Author:
Last update: 2015-03-10 15:22


OEM Cummins Alternator Question

The 4003445 alternator is the OEM Cummins alternator directly from Cummins.

The 19020375 is a Delco-Remy alternator that is the equivalent to the Cummins version.  There is a core charge connected to the aftermarket version.  If you send me back your old alternator you would get the core charge back.

Delco Remy makes the alternator for Cummins, but according to Cummins they give special specifications to Delco to make the alternator. I have talked to Delco people in the past and while they don't disagree, I never get the feeling that they fully support this statement.

The Cummins OEM version is about a 3-5 days and the Delco aftermarket is about a week out.  I can hurry up either alternator, but it would increase the price a bit as it becomes an emergency order (about $75 more).

Thank you and please don't hesitate to contact us if you need any more information or would like to place an
order.
 
J.D. Neeson

Author:
Last update: 2015-03-10 15:35


Cummins 4-sheave Pulley Question

Hello:
I am sorry, but the Cummins engine did not originally come with this 4 sheave pulley.  It was probably added by the boat builder.  If  you can look on it and  find a number I can see if it is a Cummins number. But it is probably an aftermarket version.  If you  send me some pictures and measurements I can probably find you one that would fit. If you are adding this on yourself then you probably will have to fabricate this yourself.
 J.D.
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Thank you vey much.
 A friend in Maine got the pulley for me . 

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Hello:
That is great. Do you know where your buddy got it and what part number it  was?  I could not find  one that was very  close at all and would love to know where to go if someone  else needs it.
  J.D.
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 Here is the part numbers: Adapter 4947627 and Pulley 3906717

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Last update: 2015-03-10 15:36


Payment Methods

Sending an International Wire Payment Question

Below is a further description of the international wire method.  We do about $5 million in overseas wires each year and in about a quarter of the time it takes two tries before banks get the information right.  I hope below will help.  If your bank continues to have issues they can contact Kimberly Cooley at our bank kimberly.cooley@the1st.com or (207) 563-3195 extension 2021.
 
 
For International Wires originating from outside the U.S.A. please use the following:   
There is an additional section that needs to be included due to new banking regulations and an arrangement that our bank, The First has with Key Bank for international transactions. Every bank has a slightly different form for their international wire transfers, but what many banks do is to fill in the normal sections with The First information as the Beneficiary and the Key Bank information as the Beneficiary Bank and then put the Beneficiary Account Details under the special instructions section (sometimes called additional information or further instructions).  The important thing is to have all three sections worth of information on the wire transfer document (or on-line form).

BENEFICIARY:
The First NA
P.O. Box 940
Damariscotta, ME 04543 U.S.A.
Account Number: 199681001947

BENEFICIARY BANK (INTERNATIONAL BANK)
Key Bank
4910 Tiedeman Road
Mailcode OH-01-51-0641
Cleveland, OH 44144 U.S.A.
Swift: KEYBUS33

BENEFICIARY ACCOUNT DETAILS:
Further Credit:
Marine Parts Express
65 Dodge Road
Edgecomb, ME 04556
Account Number: 74116086

Author:
Last update: 2015-03-10 15:25


Part Number Questions

Why Do You Keep Expired or Replaced Parts Listed on Your Website?

Hello:

If the part was still available as a new part, I would have sent it off to you. But this is a discontinued part from Mercruiser.   Mercruiser strongly recommends you replace the whole gear and clutch assembly.  If your drive is still under warranty (it probably isn't anyway) if you use the older clutch, it will void the warranty as Mercruiser wants you to replace it. I will put the part on a two week hold in case you can't find another source for the part at the original price. This is just a very rare part that I had to pay more for than originally.  The amount of profit I am making is almost exactly the same as I would have made if I had the part at the old original price.

J.D.

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Ok I am still very confused as to why your website is still offering the part as being available at a cost of $224.35. I cannot understand how you advertise like this, and then want to charge more. How much will the final price be including shipping to South Africa on a 3 to 5 business days. I await your reply.

 
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Hello Sir:

On the issue of keeping the old part numbers on the web site we have had many discussions on this issue.  On one hand we don't like to mis-lead people that we have parts when we don’t have them (or at the original low price), but on the other if we don't keep the part numbers on the site then when people try to find their old part number it won't come up as it is not on the system and they won't know that the part has superseded or expired (often a part will supersede into multiple parts or multiple different parts depending on the engine).

And on the other hand (third hand, I know), we often have the older rarer parts in our stock (or have had them recently) or can find them at reasonable prices.  Again it is difficult to express all these options on the system as there are so many variables.

So the policy we have established is the follows:
1)  We keep all the older part numbers on the site so people can find them and attempt to keep up with all the supercessions (there are hundreds of them every couple of weeks).
2)  If we have the original part number and have paid the original cost for it, we charge the original retail price or perhaps a little less.

3)  If we have purchased the original part number from somewhere we use our actual purchase price plus our standard mark up.

I hope this explain what happened in your case.  And I made another couple of calls to dealers and parts misers, and was unable to find anyone who had one of these on their shelves.

And finally, please remember that Mercruiser would recommend that you should change out the entire gear set.  I think they are being overly cautious on this issue, but they may know something that they are not telling.  But when you consider that this clutch has been used for years without any big public issues, it seems likely that this is a reasonable  chance to take.

J.D.
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Last update: 2015-03-10 15:34


Replacement and Expired Part Numbers on our Web Site Questions

Hello Sir:

I believe you talked with Fred today about your 861926T3. This part has been superceeded by a kit 892798A01 which is a complete ECM conversion kit. The original part number 861926T3 is no longer available and I
have called around before and no one seems to have it on their shelves any longer.
J. D. Neeson

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Hello,

I talked to a butch of poeple trying to find this part cheaper.  Your web sight is the only one that listed the replacement part number with the old part and price. Which infers that you are selling the new part at the price listed. Even the invoice has the new part number list. No I am not interested in the new price.

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Hello:

I am sorry, that I don't have the part under the old number.  Mercruiser changed this to a kit about 5-6 years ago and all the people who had the old part on their shelves (like we used to) have had them snapped over time as the price for the new kit is so high.  If I still had the old part number on my shelf I would be happy to sell it to you for the original price.

On the issue of keeping the old part numbers on the web site we have had many discussions on this issue. On one hand we don't like to mis-lead people that we have parts when we don’t have them (or at the original low price), but on the other if we don't keep the part numbers on the site then when people try to find their old part number it won't come up as it is not on the system and they won't know that the part has superseded (often a part will supersede into multiple parts or multiple different parts depending on the engine).

And on the other hand (third hand, I know), we often have the older rarer parts in our stock (or have had them recently) or can find them at reasonable prices. Again it is difficult to express all these options on the system as there are so many variables.

So the policy we have established is the follows:

1) We keep all the older part numbers on the site so people can find them and attempt to keep up with all the supercessions (there are hundreds of them every couple of weeks).

2) If we have the original part number and have paid the original cost for it, we charge the original retail price or perhaps a little less.

3) If we have purchased the original part number from somewhere we use our actual purchase price plus our standard mark up.

I hope this explain what happened in your case. And I made another couple of calls to dealers and parts misers, and was unable to find anyone who had one of these on their shelves.

If you can't find anyone who has the original part number and you decide to bite the bullet and go with the new kit version, please let us know as we do have a couple of these in our stock. 

Please feel free to contact me if you would like to discuss this further.

J. D. Neeson

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Author:
Last update: 2015-03-10 15:37


Contents of Kit 21676083

Hello:
 
This kit has two part numbers in it.
 
1)        Two Disc kits (21357719)  - attached is a picture of the discs.
2)        And the upgrade oil kit 21551779.
 
 
Since purchasing the 21676083 is less expensive I would get it this way and just hold onto the discs or if  you have not changed the discs maybe change them when do the other work.
 
J.D.

Author:
Last update: 2015-03-10 15:44


838310 Replaced by 855872 Question

Hello Sir:
Your power steering pump 838310 has been superceeded to a new pump number 855872. BUT you must use your old pulley and hub from your old pump. If your pulley or hub are distroyed and you can't use them
again, let me know and I can find you a work around.
J. D. Neeson

Author:
Last update: 2015-03-10 15:45


Volvo Part 854934 Now 21389074 Question

Hello Sir:
 
Attached is a diagram of the upper unit of the sail drive.  Ref. 70 is the big rubber seal that is squeezed between the upper and lower units that seals the sail drive to the hull from the inside.
 
The number for this kit, on the diagram, is 854934 which includes the seal and some other gaskets.  Actually Volvo Penta superceedes this number to 21389074 which is the new kit number.
 
Most times we replace both, but the 21389074 is expensive (around $432.).
 
 
J.D.
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Author:
Last update: 2015-03-10 15:49


Volvo 839330 and 839331 Expired Question

Hello Sir:

We received your order for the parts 839330 and 839331. Both parts are expired, but I do have a source for them.

Attached is a quote showing the new prices for these expired parts. The price does increase (my source knows how rare these are).

I also included a good used one of the housing that we have out back.

Please review and let me know what you would like to do.

I am sorry I can't find these at a more reasonable price, but they have been discontinued for 18 years!

J. D. Neeson

Author:
Last update: 2015-03-10 15:49


Unit Injection Replacement Number/Core Charge Question

Hello Sir:

The unit injection 20440388 has been changed to 3801437.  This is a "NEW EXCHANGE" so the part is new, but has a core charge connected to it. Volvo Penta does this to get back the old injectors in case they want to establish a remanufacturing program.
The core charge, designated as 3804437, is refundable once we receive the old injector cores back to us
at Marine Parts Express.
Thank you and please don't hesitate to contact us if you need any more information or would like to place an

order.
J.D. Neeson

Author:
Last update: 2015-03-10 15:51


"Part Found" Question

volvo MD2040B

Hello,
Is there a way to tell on your website if parts are in stock?
When it says "part found" does it mean it is in stock or just that the part number is valid?

Regards

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Hello:
 
It can mean both.
 
We have a large stock that is constantly changing due to our volume.  So most times if it says
part found it means that it is in stock and we have it.
 
But sometimes our stock is depleted before the web site gets updated so sometimes we don't
actually have it in stock.  It usually takes about two days for us to restock.
 
However, MD2040B engines are discontinued through Volvo Penta and Volvo Penta is a little
slack in supplying parts for some discontinued engines especially for engines like yours that
are built upon a Perkins block.
 
So if you let me know what you need, I can send you a quote along with any leadtimes.
 
We are also able to drop ship directly from Volvo PEnta so if you are in a hurry we can drop
it directly to you.
 
JD

Author:
Last update: 2015-03-10 15:52


Fuel Pump 3594444 Replaced by 21608511 Question

Hello:

I wanted to explain about the fuel pump.

In the attached schematic the complete fuel pump is part number 3594444 which after many changes becomes 21608511.

Also in the attached  is the high pressure pump (part of the complete pump) with a number of 3588865.

So the complete fuel pump is made up of the low pressure base (with all of the parts and connections) and the high pressure pump.

Volvo Penta and Carter, who makes the pump, have had some issues so that is why the entire pump has changed

numbers so often.  The new pump has a one year warranty.

If however, you just swap out the high pressure pump then there is no warranty as Volvo Penta’s belief is that

you need to go with complete new pump.

My guess, and we have a description of this issue in our blog and in our newsletter, is the problem that some of these

fuel pump experience is a combination of the ethanol in the gas (which eats away the earlier coatings inside the pumps), the application and the way the pump is cooled by the water line.

 

J. D. Neeson

Author:
Last update: 2015-03-10 15:53


Volvo PN 838697 Replacement Question

 

Hello,

 

 

 

What is the exchange part # for Volvo part # 838697. EPC says there one available for this but I am having trouble locating it.

 

 

 

Thanks,

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There is not an exchange number for 838697 directly. 838697 changes to 3 part numbers:

 

11994 (2) gaskets

861260 turbo (exchange # is 3802070)

969299 (1) hollow screw

 

Author:
Last update: 2015-03-10 15:55


Fuel Pump 3594444 Replaced by 21608511 Question

Hello:

I wanted to explain about the fuel pump.

In the attached schematic the complete fuel pump is part number 3594444 which after many changes becomes 21608511.

Also in the attached  is the high pressure pump (part of the complete pump) with a number of 3588865.

So the complete fuel pump is made up of the low pressure base (with all of the parts and connections) and the high pressure pump.

Volvo Penta and Carter, who makes the pump, have had some issues so that is why the entire pump has changed

numbers so often.  The new pump has a one year warranty.

If however, you just swap out the high pressure pump then there is no warranty as Volvo Penta’s belief is that

you need to go with complete new pump.

My guess, and we have a description of this issue in our blog and in our newsletter, is the problem that some of these

fuel pump experience is a combination of the ethanol in the gas (which eats away the earlier coatings inside the pumps), the application and the way the pump is cooled by the water line.

 

J. D. Neeson

Author:
Last update: 2015-03-10 15:57


Volvo Steering Pump 855860 Now 855872 Question

Hello:

 

The new steering pump 855872 is a direct replacement for power steering pump 855860. However, 855860 had a pulley that was held on by 4 bolts, but the new power steering pump has a pressure fitted pulley that goes over the shaft. So the question is what is the new pulley for the new steering pump? 

 

Thank you 

 

J.d.

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On that pump shaft is a hub and on that hub is a pulley, the pulley is fixed on the hub with 4 bolts , the hub of the old pump needs to be transferred to the new pump because it is no longer available.

Thank you,

FRANK

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Author:
Last update: 2015-03-10 15:58


Volvo 873531 RPL 22314183 Question

Hello:
 
Volvo Penta is still having some issues on these, but they have contacted with a new
vendor for this part.  This means there is a new part number for the 873531  which
is 22314183.  It should be the exact same part, but from a different vendor
and a new part number.   However, the price has increased to $231.54 each.
This new part number is so new that it hasn't been officially entered into the
parts systems as of yet.
 
I talked with Volvo Penta today and they said the new part number should be
in their hands by February 6th (500 pieces) and then a next batch of 500 on March
6th.
 
Do you want to order a pair of these?
 

J. D. Neeson

Author:
Last update: 2015-03-10 15:59


Yamaha

Yamaha Jet Drive Outboard Question

Am trying to find a jet drive outboard for my 40 horse Yamaha to replace the prop drive.   It's a 1980's engine and I can get all the specific info if you have any potential for having a jet drive that might work.  Any info would be appreciated.  Thanks 

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Hello:
 
I am sorry, but while we can get you parts for either your prop Yamaha or the jet version, I can't supply
you with a whole new engine.
 

J. D. Neeson

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JD;  Maybe I'm misunderstanding you with whole new engjne. I'm simply looking for the whole jet drive unit to replace the current prop lower unit.  Thanks

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Hello:
I am not sure that you can do this, but if you give me all the information about  your existing drive, I will talk to the Yamaha boys and see if it can be done.
I will mention that jet drives are less effective than props at the same horsepower as the jets operate effeciently over a much reduced range.  As a rule of thumb we usually figure that you need 20-30% more HP for the jet to have about the same performance.
 
J.D.
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Thanks,  I've become more enlightened after talking to my local Marine outfit.  Expensive and much less operating power.  Thanks 
 

Author:
Last update: 2015-03-10 15:36


Volvo Penta » QL Bow Truster

What type of oil does the Volvo QL bow thruster specify?

Unfortunately Volvo Penta no longer offers the QL bow thruster oil (41100129) and they recommend using Castrol Alpha SP 150 or equivalent gear oil. We don’t sell Castrol but your local Napa probably does.

 

Attached is the specifications for the oil. You may be able to bring that to Napa or another auto parts store and they might be able to find the right oil for you.

 

-Brian

Author: Brian Sutter
Last update: 2016-07-26 15:10